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March 28th, 2006, 09:56 AM
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Sire/Siress Question
Okay, we know that men and women who've had children and are married, been married in TOS are addressed by the honorific of Sire or Siress, but what are you addressed as if you're not married or haven't had children?
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March 28th, 2006, 10:05 AM
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Simply rank or name I imagine 
I always thought Sire or Siress had more to do with being on the Council, past or present.
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March 28th, 2006, 10:32 AM
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like centon
I think the terms Sire and Siress were some of those words that had no consistent meaning, the way centon seems to be bandied about.
In Saga, Uri is a member of Council, and is called Sire Uri, but Apollo refers to his wife as Siress Uri.
In Baltar's Escape, the female member of Council is Siress Tinia. But in Man with Nine Lives, Chameleon's lady friend is Siress Blassie. She's not on Council, but she seems to be a member of the gentry.
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In Saga, a child calls Apollo "Mister." Chameleon calls Cassiopeia "Miss."
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March 28th, 2006, 11:56 AM
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I have always thought of those titles (Sire and Siress) as being of some nobility, such as a count and countess.
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March 29th, 2006, 04:02 PM
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there was also siress belloby in the magnificent warriors. also gentry or upperclass.
it might just mean an adult title too, based on our 'sir', with a pronunciation twist.
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March 29th, 2006, 05:36 PM
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I definitely feel that the titles are a reference to a noble class in Colonial society. I think it was chosen because it sounded familiar yet somewhat unearthly. I don't think you have to be a member of the council of twelve to earn the title. It just so happens that the nobles are the people calling the shots.
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