Astronomy Buffs Please Help!

Muffit · August 14th, 2003, 10:49 AM

Hey there! Any astronomy buffs among us? I have a couple questions.

One, I saw my first shooting star last night -- was that a meteor shower? Which one?

And my main question, on Tuesday evening around 9:00PM very near the full moon there was this BRILLIANT reddish star (south in the sky). It's been out every night for the past weeks but was really obvious Tuesday. Anybody know what it is? Is it a planet??? Wish I had a telescope but all I have is binocs

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Thanks for any help!!!

Dawg · August 14th, 2003, 11:02 AM

I am not an astronomy buff, Muffit, but I think I know the answer.

The Persiedes (sp?) is a large bunch of meteors that the Earth passes through periodically (at least annually). I read that we're going to see them in the latter half of this month.

In general, shooting stars are meteors. In recent history, though, they are also old satellites, Space Lab, and other debris we've left in orbit.

And watch out for the reeeely big ones - those are asteroids, and could ruin your whole day.

The red star is Mars. We're the closest we've been to the red planet in 60,000 years - this is truly a once-in-a-lifetime event. Go look at it again tonight, and show your kids, too - they'll never see it this close again.

Not bad for somebody who never goes outside, huh?

I am
Dawg

August 14th, 2003, 11:23 AM

Tha shining read star, depending on it's position in the sky, could actually be the planet Mars. Normally Mars is not visible with the naked eye. However right now, or soon to now I not sure which, Mars will be closer to Earth than it has in 65,000 years or somewhere in that neighborhood. So right now is the first time in a very long time that Mars will be visible to the naked eye.

Artemis · August 14th, 2003, 12:46 PM

Your are right about Mars being the closest it has been in 60,000 years but that is not why it is visible with the naked eye. When it is in the night sky it is one of the 7 original celestial bodies visible by the naked eye, light pollution not with standing. Mars has been known since prehistoric times. It was through the close observations of its movements that the retrograde movement of the planets was observed, however it was not understood what caused this movement until the Earth was properly moved from the center of the solar system to its actual position as the third planet. It was because of its retrograde movement through the sky that the planets were given the name "planet" which means 'to wander'.
:colwar:
"closet astronomer"

Stevew · August 14th, 2003, 12:59 PM

It was probably Mars

http://www.astronomy.com/Content/Dyn...1/422xesjq.asp

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/ga...ond/index.html

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/

http://pegasus.astro.umass.edu/

A few sites that may interest you
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BST · August 14th, 2003, 03:22 PM

Muffit,

Dawg was right on target about the Perseides meteor shower, they occur every year during the month of August. There is also another meteor show that occurs annually, during the month of November, called the Leonid meteor shower. Really cool to watch, if you have clear skies and are away from 'city lights'.

(I'll check the NASA website to see if they have a schedule for the Leonid meteor shower and if so, I'll post another reply to this thread.)

BST

BST · August 14th, 2003, 03:38 PM

I couldn't find a schedule for the Leonids but, I did find some interesting information regarding the Perseid meteor shower -- what causes them, etc.

http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreduc..._Perseids.html

I'll keep looking and let you know when I find something. (Probably more information as we get closer to November). BTW, I think the name "Leonid" comes from the location of the meteor shower, in the vicinity of the constellation, Leo.

BST

Artemis · August 14th, 2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by BST
BTW, I think the name "Leonid" comes from the location of the meteor shower, in the vicinity of the constellation, Leo.

Exactly right, it is named for the constellation it appears to come from. The Perseids appear to come from Perseus. However there is a constant bombardment of particles hitting the Earth, not all meteors are associated with a meteor shower. The Perseids are traditionally one of the more spectacular showers. The best method of watching is to go to a high, dry place, the desert is best, and lay on your back and just watch the entire sky.

BST · August 14th, 2003, 04:14 PM

Yep. Standing is definitely not an option, if you want to avoid a stiff neck!!

Muffit · August 14th, 2003, 04:34 PM

Thank you all /so/ much

. It's so nice to have so many friends

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shiningstar · August 14th, 2003, 06:26 PM

Yes it was and it was the persiedes.
I was sooooooo Mad I was up waiting for the
meteor shower and it clouded up and rained so
I couldn't see any .......WAHHHHHHHHHH!!!

amberstar · August 16th, 2003, 11:39 PM

Same thing happened here shiningstar, I missed it due to rain.
Muffit, I think that mars will be the closest to Earth on the 27th of this month. It will be great to see it then, just hope it doesn't rain!
Amberstar

Muffit · August 17th, 2003, 11:41 AM

Thanks! I was really hoping the rental place in our little town would have telescopes, but alas, no go. Guess I'll have to gander with the naked eye. Naked eye? Is there such thing as a clothed eye??? How dare me run around bare-eyed!!!

Raymar3d · August 18th, 2003, 09:38 AM

http://www.blogjam.com/neil_armstrong/

This is the real version....

LOL,

Ken

Artemis · August 18th, 2003, 11:32 AM

LOL :laugh:
Sounded like my boss when he gets worked up about something.

shiningstar · August 18th, 2003, 08:11 PM

emerita · August 20th, 2003, 10:07 AM

To get the the best of Mars go out on the night of August 27th. I have it marked on my calander. I will not miss something that will not re-occur in my lifetime......I can't wait to see it....

Senmut · August 21st, 2003, 11:46 PM

Actually, the meteor shower is the result of debris from a destroyed BaseShip.

emerita · August 22nd, 2003, 05:25 AM

even though that does sound funny... you never know how real that may be.....

Muffit · August 24th, 2003, 04:20 PM

Am so disappointed. Once in 60,000 years and no telescope to see it (sigh). I remember another disappointment, when Halley's came and I trekked all the way to the observatory to see it. It had been clear every day for weeks. And suddenly it was overcast -- impossible to see anything. Only chance to see it in my lifetime and I missed it.

Big sigh. Maybe I'll drive around the neighborhood on the 27th and see if anyone else has a scope? Silly me, always thinking of hope...

Stevew · August 24th, 2003, 05:02 PM

Just 4 U Muff Binocks will do very nicely
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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emerita · August 24th, 2003, 06:39 PM

From what I hear and have read we will be able to see some amazing things through just binoculars. Also do you have a college near you? You can bet they will have students out watching. Our Jr. college sets up around ten or so telescopes and invite the public to come and look. But I'll be on the beach with my binoculars......
Thanks for the link, Steve....I have bookmarked it....just wish all of us could be together to watch it.

Muffit · August 24th, 2003, 08:03 PM

Wow, thanks SteveW and Em, I do have a set of binoculars (from the time of Halleys in fact). We also have a small college annex nearby, perhaps someone will be out.

Thanks so much

Artemis · August 25th, 2003, 12:02 PM

The planetary society has a list of events, maybe there is one in your area.
http://planetary.org/marswatch2003/events.html

Stevew · August 25th, 2003, 12:08 PM

Are you a member of the planetary society ?
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Muffit · August 25th, 2003, 01:22 PM

Thanks Artemis(!) There was one event at the link you gave me within driving distance but unfortunately it has passed already. Darn. Thank you very much though

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SteveW, no am not a member, this is the first I've heard of it. I am a member of the Daggits for Donuts foundation though

. I got into this too late I think. We had been talking about getting a star program (like Starry Night) and a scope for the last 6 months or so but you know how it goes, I kept putting it off.

There's still hope! Maybe someone will be out and will let me share their eyepiece for a few moments.

Thanks all!

emerita · August 25th, 2003, 04:15 PM

I was sent the information on joining the Planetary Society but I just haven't had the entry fee. I think it is $125.00 to join. I do plan on doing it though. It is so cool.

Artemis · August 25th, 2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by emerita
I was sent the information on joining the Planetary Society but I just haven't had the entry fee. I think it is $125.00 to join. I do plan on doing it though. It is so cool.

It is $30 a year. You can join at https://planetary.org/JoinUs.html but it seems to only work in explorer, not on Netscape. I've been a member since it first started. There are other levels of donation but $30 in the basic membership and gets you the bimonthly magazine.

Muffit · August 25th, 2003, 05:59 PM

Hi Artemis(!)

What sorts of things does the Planetary Society do?
Thanks,

Stevew · August 25th, 2003, 06:06 PM

It is a nice group of very qualified people that support space exploration. They have a nice little mag. I was a charter member and have tried to support their causes
http://planetary.org/html/news/artic..._08_03toc.html
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