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Old August 6th, 2017, 07:19 PM   #31
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Westy, I know you didn't care for the pulsar cannons (the larger ones) I'd mounted on my previous model of the Big G. (I was inspired a little bit by the Galactica in the Ron Moore series for that...and I'd always felt that a ship like a battlestar should have big guns anyway for slugfests against other capital ships...the whole "broadsides" thing). But I had also placed the smaller anti-starfighter laser cannons at a lot of points all over that build. A few I had put in the "temple" areas (the indentations) of the head of the ship.....a couple top mounted and a couple deck mounted. I had also mounted some on the struts connecting the flight pods to the ship, as well as the top and bottom of the main hull. I think, in the tv show, some cannons may have been mounted in the strips along the flight pods flanking the chutes from where the Vipers are launched. Some upper, some lower.
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Old August 7th, 2017, 06:34 AM   #32
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Westy, I know you didn't care for the pulsar cannons (the larger ones) I'd mounted on my previous model of the Big G. (I was inspired a little bit by the Galactica in the Ron Moore series for that...and I'd always felt that a ship like a battlestar should have big guns anyway for slugfests against other capital ships...the whole "broadsides" thing). But I had also placed the smaller anti-starfighter laser cannons at a lot of points all over that build. A few I had put in the "temple" areas (the indentations) of the head of the ship.....a couple top mounted and a couple deck mounted. I had also mounted some on the struts connecting the flight pods to the ship, as well as the top and bottom of the main hull. I think, in the tv show, some cannons may have been mounted in the strips along the flight pods flanking the chutes from where the Vipers are launched. Some upper, some lower.
I don't recall ever criticizing it...did I? If I did, it was probably that there wasn't anything on the studio model in whatever particular location, but that's as far I'd go...and that's only cuz of my accuracy OCD.
Like I said though, there's stuff all over her that could be considered turrets, launchers, mega pulsar whatchamacallits, and so on.

btw, I also always though in my own mind that the bay trenches would have plenty of laser turrets there as well.

I wish they had just gone that one step further and showed actual objects on the ship where the fire originated from. I mentioned in my previous post one definite location for at least one turret, but I can't recall if there was ever shown to be more definite locations. Then there's the missiles...Living Legend showed missiles being fired, but not where on the ship they came from. But again, there's stuff all over her that looks like missile launchers...cannisters, launch tube hatches, etc.

Then there's the shields...was it greeting from earth? I forget...it was when Galactica threw a shield over that planet to stop all the nukes...if she can do that, she definitely has defensive screens of some sort....

So idk, there's plenty to go on. One of these days I'm gonna animate my model with definite turrets on her, freaking shields, and missiles. It's all canon (pardon the pun), so why not right?
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Old August 7th, 2017, 06:39 AM   #33
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I just finished another round of accurizing, this time the head sides, and the edges of the top of the head, the eyebrows, and redid all the piping in said areas.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 01:19 AM   #34
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I don't recall ever criticizing it...did I? If I did, it was probably that there wasn't anything on the studio model in whatever particular location, but that's as far I'd go...and that's only cuz of my accuracy OCD.
No, no, my friend, not at all. You weren't criticizing. You simply stated your taste. I didn't take it any other way. Certainly not my intention to make you feel defensive.

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btw, I also always though in my own mind that the bay trenches would have plenty of laser turrets there as well.
My thoughts as well.

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I wish they had just gone that one step further and showed actual objects on the ship where the fire originated from. I mentioned in my previous post one definite location for at least one turret, but I can't recall if there was ever shown to be more definite locations. Then there's the missiles...Living Legend showed missiles being fired, but not where on the ship they came from. But again, there's stuff all over her that looks like missile launchers...cannisters, launch tube hatches, etc.
Most fans and folks speculate that this would be the one of the missile launchers, just below and to the right of the ship's nameplate:



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Then there's the shields...was it greeting from earth? I forget...it was when Galactica threw a shield over that planet to stop all the nukes...if she can do that, she definitely has defensive screens of some sort....
As I understand it, it wasn't so much that the Galactica threw a shield over the planet, as it had fired all of its bearing weapons and picked the missiles out of the sky. But, they didn't quite the effects capability to show thousands of laser bolts firing at the atmosphere, so they went with what looked like a large, wide beam which looked like a shield.

Our own David Kerrin did a version of that scene, showing the Galactica firing the myriad laser bolts at the planet.

I think I recall hearing in the episode "The Living Legend" where Cain mentions throwing up the "electronic shields". But I don't know if he was referring to actual deflector shields, or perhaps he meant hardening the Pegasus' electronic systems against EMP attack.


I look forward to seeing your ship animated. I imagine your ship is a memory intensive monster. She certainly is a beautiful build.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 10:33 PM   #35
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That particual nernie shows up in several other places as well. And there's other nurnies that have parts of that nernie too.
And yeah, it's a beast of a model. I can only work on little subsections of it at a time when I model. Quick renders with not much AA and low resolution take only a minute or so, but when I pull out all the stops and do a 4k with high AA and radiosity and all that a single frame can take anywhere from 2 to 6 hours....
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Old August 8th, 2017, 10:50 PM   #36
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So have they (writers, model builders) ever explained why the Galactica looks like a six legged crocodile?

(This picture being the ten legged crocodile from Neverland (2011)

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Perhaps to show the potential fury of the battlestar?

Another reply to Westy in us trying to figure out the placement of anti-starfighter cannons on the Galactica, we did see at least one (somewhat) definitive place where ASF cannons were mounted....right on the topside of the Galactica.




This particular shot would seem to indicate that there are, indeed, laser cannons mounted on the strip where the launch tubes are located.



The recent Battlestar Galactica series also indicates that ASF cannons are mounted on the launch tube strip.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 05:18 PM   #38
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That perticular shot is of the interior of the landing bay flipped upside down if anyone wants to know.

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Old August 12th, 2017, 08:03 PM   #39
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Ahhhh......so the hangar bay did have defenses.

When I built my first Blender Galactica 10 yahrens ago, I put the ASF cannons above the recovery bay.
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Old August 15th, 2017, 04:34 AM   #40
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I'm down to put all that on the model. I'm in the middle of meeting a dead line for a project I'm working on, but when that's all set I'll start looking more into this.
As long as it's either on the actual studio model or has been filmed as if it were, I'd like it on my model. Doing this will require watching all the episodes and movies and what not and capturing shots of this stuff in action. That's the "canon" (no pun intended). But that's not all, Galactica had batteries of this stuff working in concert according to dialog in the movie. So taking the shots collected and expanding them in those batteries should do the trick.
Then there's other things, like the missile launchers. In Living Legend they showed a missile being launched, it looked like the interior of a missile bay ala on one of our boomers or a land based silo or something. I was thinking those nurnies we talked about earlier are too small for that. Cuz that limits it to one missile launched at a time. But what about this are of the ship in the attached pic? See those great big hatches? Any thoughts?
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Almost done reorganizing (I hit a complexity problem and had to come up with a new way of the submodels). This is now at 7 megapolys.
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Jaw dropped? Check!
Eyes as big as saucers? Check!
Mind blown? Check!

Westy, you never cease to amaze me with this model. I don't think I can find enough superlatives.
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This is insanely a masterpiece to behold! Great job, man!
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Old August 17th, 2017, 10:15 PM   #44
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Thanks you guys!

Tonight I'm fine modeling one of the ROCOs on the engine section. It's the HO-257 otherwise known as a Bergepanzer (german ww2 tank). There's like 12 of these on the Engine section of the Galactica.

Years ago I approximately modeled the first picture, into the second picture. Back then I didn't know much about modeling, but now I'm not too bad at it. So, tonight I'm finally fixing/accurizing it.

I'm using pics like the 3rd and 4th as referneces

I'm going in......
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Old August 18th, 2017, 10:53 PM   #45
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Done. Galactica now has her full compliment of shovels, hammers and pickaxes :-)
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Very cool!
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Old August 22nd, 2017, 01:51 AM   #47
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I want to try to get rid of the ultra fine plating on the front and back of the bays and around the nameplates next. I modeled all those in solid geometry. This stuff takes up over a 100 kilopolys to render (which is almost nothing relative to the model), but it's probably time to learn about color maps and bumps...stuff I wasn't interested in much, but knew I had to do at some point. I'm doing experiments now. It kind of stinks, cuz it'll make my simple layer and surface system more complex, but it can't be helped :-(
A couple of pics: The first one is with actual modeled individual plates, the second is with color and bump maps instead. Third is just bump maps. I think the way forward is with bump maps for the fine plating effect, and maybe even the same for the rest of the non fine plating, but really subtle.

Comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
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For the super, super fine details like that, yeah, I think bump maps will take off a nice chunk of memory cost. It looks really good in that third image...and as convincing as if it were the first pic with the physical plates.
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Old August 26th, 2017, 10:08 AM   #49
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Yeah, I'm liking the bump maps for sure. One more piece of the puzzle in place...
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Indeed. The bump mapping is great for the super fine details.

Keep up the great work, Westy.

Oh, hey, did you get to check out my battlestar build? (Which is nothing compared to your masterpiece. )
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No where is it?
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Hey that's pretty nice. How did you do that? programs and all that.
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Thanks, Westy.

I used Blender to texture and shape the components: head, main hull, gator legs, engine, flight pods. (Yeah, I texture first, then shape )

Then I export the components to a program called 3DExchange by a company called Reallusion. What 3DExchange does is converts certain model formats (largely .OBJ) into a format that my favorite model animation program uses. It is during this process I can also check for texture and mesh anomalies before converting them for use in:

iClone 6 PRO. This is the program I use to fully display and animate the models I build. Most all of the renders you saw were done from iClone 6.

I recently finished my build of the bridge of an Imperial Star Destroyer. The bridge of a battlestar is next on the list.
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oh ok, that kind of stuff would probably render pretty well in a game I bet.
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There actually is a work pipeline for iClone 6 and video gaming. I love video games, but afraid I never delved into designing, beyond drafting up ideas, or using game map editors for Doom or TimeSplitters.
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So, Westy, what have you been up to?
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well...The Galactica again....I've been helping 2 expert people do something really special with her. You'll be hearing more about it soon....

but I can't contain it anymore....

This is the Galactica I've always wanted to see again. I'm trying to stay calm, but she's just so beautiful now.

and sorry i haven't kept up with the convo. They've been beating me up to do certain essential things to her so they can do what they do best. It's still my surfaces/materials and stars and window glow effect and all that, but the shape has been fixed, and so many other little things that it's added up to a lot...I almost can't tell is not real...well, you know...a model real I mean.

As for the Basestar, I had to put it on hold while I jumped back on the Galactica, but I was promised to be given some really good references for the basestar, so I'm thinking in a month or so I can go back to that...then they can fight again :-)
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