AV Declares the Format

TwoBrainedCylon · March 16th, 2003, 10:52 AM

Atlantia Viper (in a private conversation with Milton) apparently identified the format as a prequel. They're arguing against it on Milton's board.

Not confirming anything but remember that AV has been a propoganda source for the Neos and Michael has warned that false info would be put forward to discover who was leaking info so don't take this as confirmation.

Two-Brain

Hito · March 16th, 2003, 11:25 AM

AtlantaViper is a member here as well.
I'd be nice to see this confirmed.

March 16th, 2003, 11:25 AM

In my opinion they can chose any format as long it doesn't erase the original.
What i don't understand is where did those RDM fans got the idea that the Fans of BSG want it to be made like in the 70´s.

TwoBrainedCylon · March 16th, 2003, 11:58 AM

Lusitan,

Its called propoganda. When you tell the same people things over and over and they keep using statements like that as "support" for why anything other than an RDM remake will fail, then you're either dealing with someone who isn't sincere.

I discussed this over there and suddenly all of the reasons we should accept the RDM remake no longer apply now that they've realized there is a change.

Two-Brain

kingfish · March 16th, 2003, 12:25 PM

I have been discussing Galactica there as well.

Titon · March 16th, 2003, 01:27 PM

Just hold on people, soon you will know.

Don't fall into with what these people state, it's just another revolving door of falsehoods

Keep the faith!

peter noble · March 16th, 2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TwoBrainedCylon
Atlantia Viper (in a private conversation with Milton) apparently identified the format as a prequel. They're arguing against it on Milton's board.

Not confirming anything but remember that AV has been a propoganda source for the Neos and Michael has warned that false info would be put forward to discover who was leaking info so don't take this as confirmation.

Two-Brain

I've added my two cents to the argument over there Two Brain. But I'm extremely cautious when it comes to anything AV says. I'll wait till I read something from an official source.

Peter

thomas7g · March 16th, 2003, 01:44 PM

2Brain- Need links!!!!

I actually am glad for any source of info. So I welcome AtlantiaViper to the board. Though of course I think ANY bit of info (from anyone) has to be treated as unconfrimed until we have confrimation.

Everybody puts a "spin" on their posts.

TwoBrainedCylon · March 16th, 2003, 01:56 PM

No links buddy. Just Milton reporting to the Neos that AV said it was a prequel. How's that for a shakey foundation. BSGBH was on my ass to confirm (which I'm not doing) and also to defend it. BSGBH's panties are again in an uproar and has practically got the entire new story laid out and an entire series of "facts" as to why it will be a total failure.

I bailed before the arguing really kicked off.

Titon,

Are you smiling and dancing as well?

Two-Brain

thomas7g · March 16th, 2003, 01:57 PM

OPh and... I followed the info trail back to the original post about this.

There isn't any info here that we don't already know. And its heresay, so I wouldn't put much stock in it. Lets not be eager to jump at every rumor. Or be so fearful of conspiracies that we see them in the shadows.

also the posts says to go HERE to 3dg. But we give ample time to people who are against Hammer's vision. That seems contradictory to AtlantiaViper's interests (If AV is indeed a Hammer employee)

March 16th, 2003, 02:06 PM

AV made the comments yesterday on alt.battlestar-galactica newsgroup. The thread to look for the message is "Re: Petition not to RE-IMAGE Original Series....and boycotting a new BSG". AtlantiaViper made a post which I requoted on the forum. Here is post once again which does not say prequel but says to read between the lines. The only talk has been prequel by Michael Faries so I am sure it is a prequel but I will wait for the official announcement. AV has been right in the newsgroup in previous post so I do not doubt he is right this time.

----- Original Message -----
From: "AtlantiaViper" <noone@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.battlestar-galactica
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: Petition not to RE-IMAGE Original Series....and boycotting a new BSG

>Mr Dewsons <sg_defeRMEOVEnder_1@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:sg_defeRMEOVEnder_1->1C31BF.11122603032003@news.iprimus.com.au:
>
>This boycott thing is doomed to laughably fail, you know that don't
>you?
>
>No offence intended.

Actually the amount of fan pressure has made a critical change. Remember the ones in charge are arrogant and stubborn, but THEIR bosses are dealing with corporate bankrupcy. Having a lone gun who is creating a tremendous amount of ill will to create their own version of Galactica is finally creating a backlash.

Look on the scifi.com and 3dgladiators.com sites for more info. People in
the know can't openly spill the beans for fear of legal action. But if you
look diligently you can piece the info together.

"To try risks failure, but to not try at all assures defeat."

thomas7g · March 16th, 2003, 02:18 PM

something don't sound right.....

March 16th, 2003, 02:18 PM

Correct warrior which is bsgbountyhunter is a little upset because he is very outspoken about Enterprise under his Trek handle at the Paramount forum. So it doesn't surprise me that he would be so adament against prequel because that is consistent in his nature.

TwoBrainedCylon · March 16th, 2003, 02:28 PM

For what its worth, AV doesn't say prequel and I'm not saying that either, but this post concurs with what I know (which isn't everything). I'd believe AV on this one.

Thanks Milton.

Two-Brain

kingfish · March 16th, 2003, 03:27 PM

A proper prequel should honor TOS Galactica in the same way Smallville honored the original Superman when Christopher Reeve starred in it a few weeks ago. It made me proud.. very proud.

Titon · March 16th, 2003, 03:32 PM

Dancing? You obviously haven't seen me cut a rug, it ain't pretty!

These same people have been expressing there views for months and nothing has ever come to be. Take a good long look at who's here at Colonial Fleets and who has come and gone.

People it's very simple, just keep the faith.

Oh by the way, remember guys like Havoc? Where-o-where have they gone.

peter noble · March 16th, 2003, 03:41 PM

I've got faith. And I'm five by five!

After all, faith can move mountains!

Peter

BST · March 16th, 2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

BSGBH's panties are again in an uproar and has practically got the entire new story laid out and an entire series of "facts" as to why it will be a total failure.

Isn't it interesting how, at the other forum, they argue profusely about 'something that never was ' while we so-called 'evil ones' are vilified for arguing about not destroying 'something that was'. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, some members of that forum are resorting to putting down the "as yet unconfirmed retooling-to-be-a-prequel", just because they are not getting their way.

I do admit that there are some, at the other forum, who are willing to compromise. They are the enlightened ones. They realize that only by reaching out to TOS proponents (I hate the 'Retro' tag) and seeing both groups compromise, will the franchise have the best chance of success and survival.

Oh well, I'll keep watching, keep listening and most importantly, keep the faith!!

BST

the3rdhuman · March 16th, 2003, 04:52 PM

Award winning writers should be able to pen something equally as "compelling" when the suits change the direction a bit, right?

It's never been about Galactica the RDM supporters, it's more like a re-invented Star Trek. And if they won't watch it, fine. There are enough Galactica fans already out there.

jewels · March 16th, 2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peter noble
I've got faith. And I'm five by five!

After all, faith can move mountains!

Peter

Even if we've had to move it (the mountain) a molecule at a time, right?
*envisions mountain leaping into Pacific off the coast of Catalina*
When the mountain moves, do watch out for the water displacement which may occur.
:z:

oldwardaggit · March 16th, 2003, 05:55 PM

I have no feeling in my left toe.

OWD

Stevew · March 16th, 2003, 06:17 PM

Good point Don I was wondering what happened to our boy Havoc. Do you think there will ever be a time that everybody here will fess up to who they really are and what they do? You see folks post under these handles and not their real names. I understand for some it in necessary
but I think it would be nice to know who people are. Many here use their names here but at the other bd people are just so criptic. I don't know about anybody else but for me it is WYSIWYG

Steve

crash4587 · March 16th, 2003, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stevew
Good point Don I was wondering what happened to our boy Havoc. Do you think there will ever be a time that everybody here will fess up to who they really are and what they do? You see folks post under these handles and not their real names. I understand for some it in necessary
but I think it would be nice to know who people are. Many here use their names here but at the other bd people are just so criptic. I don't know about anybody else but for me it is WYSIWYG
Steve

I have Havioc's E-mail address, I think he is who he say's he is. I can invite him back. Allthough I don't agree with him, he is fair .

michaelfaries · March 16th, 2003, 06:41 PM

I don't think that "retro" or "neo" tag will exist much longer.

We're all Galacticans. With what's developing, that term is reinforced. I don't see a mass fragmenting as before.

Michael
:colwar:

michaelfaries · March 16th, 2003, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thomas7g
I actually am glad for any source of info. So I welcome AtlantiaViper to the board. Though of course I think ANY bit of info (from anyone) has to be treated as unconfrimed until we have confirmation.

Everybody puts a "spin" on their posts.

Considering the source of AV's information, the Moore you read, the Moore you get.

Michael
:colwar:

michaelfaries · March 16th, 2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kingfish
A proper prequel should honor TOS Galactica in the same way Smallville honored the original Superman when Christopher Reeve starred in it a few weeks ago. It made me proud.. very proud.

Well said, Paul. And oh-so-true.

Michael
:colwar:

March 17th, 2003, 12:07 AM

Might be off-topic but I watched Sci-Fi's Dune showings today and saw a teaser for "Battlestar Galactica". There was just a red blimp moving side-to-side then a bump of red blips that morphed into the title with the sub-head Coming December 2003. There was also a promotion for Sci-Fi productions and forthcoming showings and Battlestar was included. All that was seen of BSG besides the title was an close up of a Centurian clearly taken from the original show.

FWIW. After watching Dune and Children of Dune, I'm presuming the budgets between the shows will be similar. I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the special effects compared to the original. I haven't seen Firefly (yet) so perhaps it's a factor of effects houses that made the Dunes look as painfully cheesy at times as TOS yet worse given the close to thirty-five(!) year gap in production and technologies. I wouldn't overall be disappointed if Galactica got an 'epic' treatment along the lines of the Dune mini-series which I found overall enjoyable having neither seen the motion picture nor read the novels.

kingfish · March 17th, 2003, 06:00 AM

Many believe that if and I say if it is a prequel the same sets, costumes, daggits, and ect will be used. Enterprise is a prequel of sorts and the effects, costumes, and so on are much different than TOS Trek.

Stevew · March 17th, 2003, 06:43 AM

Crash
He seemed to be so involved and then nada. Last time he left he let people know. Just curious
S

DaveC001 · March 17th, 2003, 08:42 AM

Any word on a timeframe for when this radical new change will be announced?