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Old April 26th, 2013, 08:24 AM   #31
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Loving the whole Cain and Decker comparisons. Might have to get back to that in a moment.

Here lately I have been ordering my colonial warrior outfit, so naturally a HUGE fan of the Pegasus. If I were in that situation and eventually given the option to help get civiliians to safety or fight, I think I would have liked to fight it out.

But I had a fun thought of a alternate switch to this episode:

In the beginning of the episode, what if Athena had managed in those opening salvos when the vipers from the Galactica and Pegasus run across each other that Apollo is shot down.

They exchange licks, and the dander of both the Galactica and Pegasus turns out to be a civil war. Adama is unhinged at the loss of his son, and Cain refuses to admit wrong or stand down. And so the two go to war, right there in the middle of space. Last of their race, two great battlestars duking it out.

In the end, man, not the Cylons, is the end what is left of their race.
I like your alternate take on the episode.

I would have really liked Cain added to cast and the Battlestar Pegasus added too.

Ah...if only...for a second season of BSG.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #32
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Naaaah. Let's not go there. Both characters are too rich and meaningful for so ignominious an end.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 12:16 PM   #33
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Naaaah. Let's not go there. Both characters are too rich and meaningful for so ignominious an end.
LOL nicely said!

*but...I still wanted to have seen a second season*
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:58 PM   #34
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As would I.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:31 AM   #35
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Even real-life heroes can suffer ignominious fates. Because in the end, they're only humans...only men and women.

Where does it say that every hero, if they must meet their fate, must do so in a blaze of glory?

Personally, I think it takes guts to be able to have a so-called "hero" go out in a fizzle, rather than a bang.

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Old January 10th, 2014, 05:11 PM   #36
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Some of that goes back to ancient Sumerian epics. The hero HAS to have some kind of horrible fate. makes their memory more heroic I guess.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 05:41 PM   #37
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I can agree there. The audience of such epics would likely scream bloody murder if their hero didn't meet some incredible fate that roused them splendiferously.

And I can certainly understand that such folk saw the stories as an escape from their own humdrum lives, living vicariously through fictional epic heroes. Hence the term "escapism".

But then again, escapism in modern days has taken to a new low.... trailer trash who live vicariously through so-called "reality tv shows" and "Oprah".

I have no problem with the way a lot of shows are written today. Where the heroes are heroes only when the situation warrants...and then in the rest of their lives, they are just ordinary people...vulnerable, flawed, not always the white-hat....sometimes becoming the anti-hero....and perhaps even sometimes becoming the bad guy. As humans being, folk are not always solidly white-hat or black-hat. I find the "shades of grey" stories far more interesting. And I find it ballsy when the show's perceived hero meets an untimely, and less than noteworthy death. One of the reasons I liked how Wash died in Serenity.
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Old January 11th, 2014, 08:02 AM   #38
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Problem is we look for "hero's" in the wrong places. There is no such hero that exist's in tv land. That being said i find escapism to be something that I can relate to instead of watching flawed characters that serve no purpose but to remind us just how f'd up our world truly is. Until we find it in ourselves to look for hero's from within then we truly our doomed to begin with.
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Ahhh....but, Grasshoppa, when you can walk on-a rice papah without leave-a footprint, then you are ready!

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Problem is we look for "hero's" in the wrong places. There is no such hero that exist's in tv land. That being said i find escapism to be something that I can relate to instead of watching flawed characters that serve no purpose but to remind us just how f'd up our world truly is. Until we find it in ourselves to look for hero's from within then we truly our doomed to begin with.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 02:04 PM   #41
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TV embellishments aside, I wish we did have heroes today, such as Cain. Someone willing to sacrifice it all for the wellbeing of others.
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Sadly, the nature of the world today seems to do less and less to inspire such heroism and idealism.

Unpopular wars (hell, ever since VietNam), natural disasters, terror threats, etc.

There weren't very many heroes (if any at all) during Hurricane Katrina. In fact, there was probably more looting, rape, and murder going on than any altruism or just looking out for your fellow human.

I lost my faith in humanity a long time ago....years before humanity's dark side started getting portrayed in any science fiction show.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #43
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Problem is we look for "hero's" in the wrong places. There is no such hero that exist's in tv land. That being said i find escapism to be something that I can relate to instead of watching flawed characters that serve no purpose but to remind us just how f'd up our world truly is. Until we find it in ourselves to look for hero's from within then we truly our doomed to begin with.
We're not going to find heroes if we go looking for them but, if we really look hard enough, we'll see that they're all around us. You won't see bright lights or fancy clothes or signs in the front yard. But, you'll see it. They're the common, ordinary kindnesses that people do for each other. I've often thought this and it was nice to see it echoed elsewhere:

Seeing this conversation about heroes, immediately brought to mind a conversation between Galadriel and Gandalf, in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. When Galadriel asked Gandalf, "why the half-ling?", his response was --

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"Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay... small acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? That's because I am afraid and he gives me courage.
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Old February 6th, 2019, 07:07 AM   #44
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In the case of Bilbo's courage verses Galdalf's fear that is a true testament of ignorance being bliss. I'm sure Gandalf knew WAY more than he wanted to. That was why it was great to have someone slightly ignorant of all that was happening. And someone still grounded as a reminder of the nice everyday things.
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Are you in a sense comparing Bilbo to Cain?
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