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January 8th, 2011, 05:47 PM
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Warrior Ace
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What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
It must have sucked, right? The ratings didn't justify a second season of this expensive mess, correct?
Man, back in the day I was totally DEVASTATED by the news of its cancellation.
And then, of course, I *HAD* to watch G1980....
And then Empire did a frozen planet thing, just like Galactica did.....
The sheer creativity & dedication poured into the project was phenomenal for a TV project, IMO!
The Galactica itself was an amazing & original design for a space-aircraft carrier, and the Vipers were a total step up from X-Wings, again, IMO.
The actors were excellent & passionate (especially Richard Hatch, obviously).
The music by Stu Phillips was grand & engaging.
What a bad call by ABC. One or two seasons more would have made them an extra 80 to 100 million in the long run.
What made this series so special to YOU?
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January 8th, 2011, 06:17 PM
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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January 8th, 2011, 10:13 PM
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Great Wise Guru
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
If I may indulge in a shameless plug:
Tombs of Kobol Battlestar Galactica Section
Over at TOK, we have an extensive tribute/report on Battlestar Galactica, which includes (among a lot of other stuff) an article written a couple of years after ABC's mysterious decision to end the show - which pretty much proved our running theory that while BG was profitable, it wasn't profitable enough to suit the suits.
I was a little older than most of you when Battlestar Galactica aired. For me, it was the tale of hope from hopelessness, the rich backdrop to the story, the detail of the backstory, the idea that we are not alone in the universe.
And having Maren Jensen there didn't hurt.
Or Laurette Spang..........
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January 9th, 2011, 12:57 AM
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Colonial Story Teller
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
If Battlestar Galactica had stuck to the original plan.... creating seasonal telemovies (a feature tv film every three or four months) as opposed to caving to ABC's demand to produce a full on TV series, Galactica might have lasted a helluva lot longer.
As such, during the series, production problems, last minute scripts, and other factors contributed to the show's downfall.
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January 9th, 2011, 03:58 AM
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
Cost killed it.
Scope killed it
cast made it great
effect (for the time) made it memorable
it ultimately was about people and not effect
it was based around an exodus idea that every culture around the world at one time went through.
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January 9th, 2011, 04:46 AM
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
What sucks is that the very fact that it was as good as it was is kind of what killed it! To make something that good takes a real commitment. The dedication was there in every aspect except with those funding the show. They would rather do something stupid and cheap than something great that might take a bit more money.
The existence of Galactica 1980 proves two things.
A. They realized very quick that they had screwed up in canceling Galactica.
B. They should have stayed the hell out of it...because when they did it their way it was lame.
Sometimes I think big ideas scare the studios. It seems like they'll be afraid to set the bar too high. This continues even today. It is why "Firefly" was canceled after half a season and we'll probably have to endure the existence of "Jersey Shore" for twenty years.
I don't even know where to begin saying what made the series so special to me. It captured my imagination, gave me some fun mythical heroes, gave my whole family something we could enjoy together, and it has been the common thread that has introduced me to many great friends over the years.
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January 9th, 2011, 12:29 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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More Galactica goodness there! Thanks!
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January 9th, 2011, 12:32 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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Originally Posted by martok2112
If Battlestar Galactica had stuck to the original plan.... creating seasonal telemovies (a feature tv film every three or four months) as opposed to caving to ABC's demand to produce a full on TV series, Galactica might have lasted a helluva lot longer.
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If only...
Funny, in the first half of the series, the one-shot eps seemed like filler between the two-parters. Then after Sheba came on, they started to get their weekly footing IMO.
Except for Hector & Vector...
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January 9th, 2011, 12:49 PM
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Colonial Story Teller
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
One thing I thought was kind of neat was the Eastern Alliance star cruiser...it looks like a fore-runner to the Firefox (from the Clint Eastwood movie).
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January 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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One thing I thought was kind of neat was the Eastern Alliance star cruiser...it looks like a fore-runner to the Firefox (from the Clint Eastwood movie).
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Y'know, I can totally see that.
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January 9th, 2011, 07:06 PM
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Stablemaster, Livery Ship
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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Originally Posted by Dawg
If I may indulge in a shameless plug:
Tombs of Kobol Battlestar Galactica Section
Over at TOK, we have an extensive tribute/report on Battlestar Galactica, which includes (among a lot of other stuff) an article written a couple of years after ABC's mysterious decision to end the show - which pretty much proved our running theory that while BG was profitable, it wasn't profitable enough to suit the suits.
I was a little older than most of you when Battlestar Galactica aired. For me, it was the tale of hope from hopelessness, the rich backdrop to the story, the detail of the backstory, the idea that we are not alone in the universe.
And having Maren Jensen there didn't hurt.
Or Laurette Spang..........
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Psst: you left off Anne and Jayne and a host of guest pretty gals.
Dirk and Richard were easy on us gals' eyes.
I had a really good answer in the older thread, but the short version: The story visually had me at the first viper launch, the storyline having that connection to earth I though made it better than Star Wars. The focus on always having hope, the characters' faith in something/someone beyond what they could see and the functional family and even extended-by-friendship family that Adama fostered crystalized it as a forever favorite for me.
That there is so much more story that could be told only makes it better.
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January 9th, 2011, 08:03 PM
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Great Wise Guru
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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Cost killed it.
Scope killed it
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No, actually, greed killed it.
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Originally Posted by monolith21
What sucks is that the very fact that it was as good as it was is kind of what killed it! To make something that good takes a real commitment. The dedication was there in every aspect except with those funding the show. They would rather do something stupid and cheap than something great that might take a bit more money.
The existence of Galactica 1980 proves two things.
A. They realized very quick that they had screwed up in canceling Galactica.
B. They should have stayed the hell out of it...because when they did it their way it was lame.
Sometimes I think big ideas scare the studios. It seems like they'll be afraid to set the bar too high. This continues even today. It is why "Firefly" was canceled after half a season and we'll probably have to endure the existence of "Jersey Shore" for twenty years.
I don't even know where to begin saying what made the series so special to me. It captured my imagination, gave me some fun mythical heroes, gave my whole family something we could enjoy together, and it has been the common thread that has introduced me to many great friends over the years.
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The very elements that made BG have the impact it did and the effect it had was what killed it, because of short-sighted executives who wouldn't know a creative idea if it came up and bit them on the ...
Fox killed Firefly for the same reason ABC killed BG twenty years earlier - the profit margin wasn't what they wanted. They paid lip service to supporting the show while doing everything they could to insure it was a single-season expense.
Which makes no sense to me from the standpoint that they did X-Files for so long, they know there is a market for sci-fi... I guess space-based sci-fi doesn't have the profit margin to suit them.
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January 10th, 2011, 06:46 AM
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Colonial Story Teller
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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Originally Posted by Dawg
No, actually, greed killed it.
The very elements that made BG have the impact it did and the effect it had was what killed it, because of short-sighted executives who wouldn't know a creative idea if it came up and bit them on the ...
Fox killed Firefly for the same reason ABC killed BG twenty years earlier - the profit margin wasn't what they wanted. They paid lip service to supporting the show while doing everything they could to insure it was a single-season expense.
Which makes no sense to me from the standpoint that they did X-Files for so long, they know there is a market for sci-fi... I guess space-based sci-fi doesn't have the profit margin to suit them.
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Ironic, considering how much you'd figure they'd want to cash in on the big screen success of the Star Wars movies. You'd think they'd want the same for their small screen projects.
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January 10th, 2011, 08:20 AM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
Often times the pencil pushers and bean counters of this world dont have any clue about the product they are selling, and have no "big picture" thinking capability. Its not just the entertainment industry.
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January 10th, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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Originally Posted by Dawg
No, actually, greed killed it.
Fox killed Firefly for the same reason ABC killed BG twenty years earlier - the profit margin wasn't what they wanted. They paid lip service to supporting the show while doing everything they could to insure it was a single-season expense.
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January 12th, 2011, 04:46 AM
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Stablemaster, Livery Ship
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Re: What the heck makes this One-season ABC cancellation so memorable, anyway?
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Often times the pencil pushers and bean counters of this world dont have any clue about the product they are selling, and have no "big picture" thinking capability. Its not just the entertainment industry.
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Very, very true.
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