Was RDM trying to be funny????

January 27th, 2003, 08:06 AM

from the script :

...............

LEE

Yes, sir.
(she turns to go)
And uh, sir? Apollo's just my callsign. My name is Lee. Lee Adama.

LAURA

I know who you are. But Captain Apollo has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
She smiles at him, then EXITS.

...........

It was bad, but at this part i needed 15 minutes to calm down and continue reading.

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 10:04 AM

I liked that. What's the problem with it?

Hito · January 27th, 2003, 10:34 AM

Sounds more to me like an attpemted nod to the original.
Like the line from DeSanto's X-Men where Wolverine asks about the uniforms and Cyclops says
"would you prefer bright yellow spandex?" (or somthing like that)
I doubt ron was thinking...

"Hey I bet this will really piss off those continuation freaks..."

thomas7g · January 27th, 2003, 11:23 AM

I think its kinda weak dialog myself....

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 11:46 AM

Okay, I don't see it as either. But someone at www.scifi.com forwarded me a copy of the script this morning, and I may have more to say later.

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 11:53 AM

I do have this to say about the opening of the Night Two script, though:

"You Cylon bastards, you've killed my son!"

Hito · January 27th, 2003, 12:00 PM

Why is everyone but me getting to read the script. :confused:
I feel left out

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 12:05 PM

Hito, it's floating around amongst the folks over at www.scifi.com on the BSG forum. All I had to do was post a message with my email address enabled and several people contacted me to offer me the script.

They also warned me that I could be banned from the board over there for asking. Well, until about three days ago I'd never paid any attention to the place to begin with, so I figure that having a user name I created yesterday banned from the board would be a small price to pay.

thomas7g · January 27th, 2003, 12:18 PM

hey do that! And post some of the scenes so we can talk about it!!!!

I'm particularly interested in seeing this new cylon make its entrance. I hear its ...well...not for good catholic kids....

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 12:24 PM

I think that would likely cause trouble for 3DG.

I'm not at all disturbed by Number Six's antics, BTW. This is "NYPD Blue"/HBO-type sexual content. Nothing that would be ruled "pornographic" by any court in the U.S. including those in Cincinnati.

Titon · January 27th, 2003, 12:26 PM

To all that publicly state that they have a copy of this script be for warned that anyone could be prevy to legal action from anyone connected to this production.

Just a little warning to all.

thomas7g · January 27th, 2003, 12:27 PM

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 12:28 PM

Well, I can live with that, if that's how they choose to spend their money. I've no idea what the real identity of the person who emailed me the script from the scifi boards is, so could tell someone very little about its provenance.

thomas7g · January 27th, 2003, 12:30 PM

Dennis- how would you feel if Moore Redid STNG. Same characters, different genders?

Troi is played by the Rock.

Will Riker is played by Pamela Anderson Lee.

Well...that's extreme...but you get the gist. Would you take well to them cutting off Worf's wennie?

Thomas P · January 27th, 2003, 12:35 PM

Thomas, in principle it wouldn't bother me at all. The devil's in the details -- I don't see either "The Rock" or Pamela Lee being cast yet in Moore's BSG (and frankly Pamela could probably play the ass off of Riker; I'm not a big Frakes fan). I certainly don't have any problem with the gender-switching thing, and I can understand why it's being done -- or at least, one possible reason for it.

EDIT: If I post any excerpts or have much in the way of specific comment on the script from here on out, I'll either post it at www.subspacebbs.com, the SCIFI channel BSG forum or the Science Fiction and Fantasy forum at TrekBBS. That eliminates any liability on the part of 3DG.

Micheleh · January 27th, 2003, 01:05 PM

I just wish that if they want to change genders, that they would give all the charachters and the entire show an original name, and let it stand on it's own merits. Otherwise it is no more than using the names for a bait and switch. (Sure, it looks like a Vega, and has Vega parts, but it's really a re-imagined Porsche!)

Orrin_73 · January 27th, 2003, 03:31 PM

I think I was one of the first people who noticed that the script was online, I did not look at the extensions of the files I thought they were some kind of 3D fanfic pics so I tried to download it, then word opened and at that time I closed the window. because it was 4 o clock in the morning over here I went to bed. The next day when I was at the scifi bb I read that they were actually the script but the files were offline. Then I remembered and checked my internet temporary files and voila there it was only the first part. I was not able to find the second part if someone has it could he please send it to me.
Thanks
Orrin

Quote:

Originally posted by Dennis
Hito, it's floating around amongst the folks over at www.scifi.com on the BSG forum. All I had to do was post a message with my email address enabled and several people contacted me to offer me the script.

They also warned me that I could be banned from the board over there for asking. Well, until about three days ago I'd never paid any attention to the place to begin with, so I figure that having a user name I created yesterday banned from the board would be a small price to pay.

January 28th, 2003, 12:26 AM

I finished reading the script. I'll not write a review of it because i would not have much to add to the bad reviews already online.
If one can remove any reference to BSG, it is possible to find some good writing in this script. I still think RDM can do something good with BSG, but there's a lot of homework for him to do.
And those split screen scenes.... i was not in favor of using that. If i understood it right we will have the screen split into "6" parts. And that is when space battles are going on. I must have to see it to know, but i think it will not be good.

jewels · January 28th, 2003, 12:15 PM

Agree the split screen thing is a little annoying sounding during a battle. 6 parts is going to make it awful small on my TVs. No way to enjoy good cgi fx... oops, assuming something that might not be in their budget to begin with.
Jewels

dah66 · January 28th, 2003, 01:33 PM

In modern Star Trek, when the effects budget runs dry, they have people stare at screens and describe the battle.

What happens when the BSG remake runs out of cash? Six screens of people looking at screens?

Six screens sounds like too many. When I heard this, I immediately pictured the Brady Bunch.

Dave

crash4587 · January 28th, 2003, 04:27 PM

That this is a dig at Richard Hatch, and the fans of a Continuation

Hito · January 28th, 2003, 05:04 PM

When i heard it i immediatly pictured "24"

Thomas P · January 28th, 2003, 05:17 PM

No, in the context of the scene the intent is quite clear -- though I certainly think it's a nod to the original BSG to have one of the characters prefer "Captain Apollo" to "Lee".

Posting enough of the scene to make the intent clear is not something I'll do here -- it probably goes beyond whatever "brief excerpts for review purposes" one might claim for a line of dialogue or two. But essentially what's happened -- and there be SPOILERS HERE...

Lee is working with the new President of Kobol and they pick up a transmission from Adama asserting that he's taken control of the fleet and intends to counterattack.

President Roslin has Lee send Adama an order requisitioning his hospital ships, with the instruction that he's to understand that it is not a request but a Presidential directive. Lee does so, then volunteers his full name basically to make certain that all his cards are on the table with Roslin, so to speak -- reminding her that she's working with the son of the military commander that she's countermanding. Her response -- "I know who you are, but Captain Apollo etc etc" is a way of acknowledging that she sees the potential conflict of loyalties but is working with him as a trusted individual regardless of his family ties.

January 29th, 2003, 12:06 AM

Dennis

What i wanted to say was that i don't understand why he writed like this. Same thing could be acomplished whithout that line of text. I think he knew most fans would react bad to the names he was creating, so why did he writed this line?
Tryed to calm them? Make fun of the old names? something else? What do you people think?

Thomas P · January 29th, 2003, 06:28 AM

I can't relate to why people react badly to this scene, so I very much doubt that Moore expected that at all. It's been established for about half the movie at this point that these are call signs, and all this scene adds to that is to provide a rather charming on-screen reason for other characters, specifically Roslin, to habitually call Lee "Apollo".