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December 19th, 2003, 03:30 PM
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Demonslayer Vulcan Torturer
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Warrior Jacket on EBAY (X-Mas wish, LOL)
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December 20th, 2003, 12:20 AM
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Bad Email Address
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Holy Frack!! the bid is up to THAT much? Woooooo, and I thought it was bad seeing a pair of collar insignia for $46.00 when you can buy the Military Intelligence branch pins for $6.00 a pair from any military surplus store...
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December 20th, 2003, 02:44 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Quote:
Originally posted by gunnerk19
Holy Frack!! the bid is up to THAT much? Woooooo, and I thought it was bad seeing a pair of collar insignia for $46.00 when you can buy the Military Intelligence branch pins for $6.00 a pair from any military surplus store...
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Actually the bidding *isn't* up to that much. That's just the opening bid asked for! And no one has bid on it. I think they're just a little nuts personally. Maybe if it were a Cylon...
Thanks on the tip. I wondered how "available" those pins would be (I didn't know such things were available surplus) or if I'd have to be assaulted by second-hand folks selling them as cast replicas. :O Pff, why not get the real McCoy? :P
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December 20th, 2003, 02:48 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Warrior Jacket on EBAY (X-Mas wish, LOL)
Cool. I've been thinking of doing a bridge mesh myself. I'm not terribly skilled but with the blue prints and DVDs as reference it can't be *that* bad.
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December 20th, 2003, 03:43 PM
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Watashiwa Shin no Noir
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I just lowered the reserve to $2000 for all us budgetally challenged folks.
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December 20th, 2003, 08:46 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Try moving the decimal point around, and you might actually have someone bid on it. A starting price of over $1000 for a peice of questionable "memoribilia" is a bit much. And no disrespect to Mr. Hatch, but I do hope that the photo was not taken at his home. If so, he is in greater financial trouble than I thought...
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December 20th, 2003, 09:03 PM
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GINO Public Defender
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Ouch!
I agree the price is too far out there.
I remember the old flight jackets advertised perhaps in Starlog in the dark ages.Are these things still around?
Is there some old licensing deal that would keep Hatch from reviving the line? Or preventing mass copies from being sold?
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January 2nd, 2004, 06:26 PM
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Does anyone know why there are now crimson jackets and green jackets in "The Second Coming" instead of the brown ones used in TOS?? Was Richard Hatch unable to secure permission to use the originals, or are the new colors just something he thought up??
Cheers,
Kevin
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January 2nd, 2004, 08:57 PM
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Demonslayer Vulcan Torturer
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Hi Piperkev,
The brown jackets are also in the trailer. The red jackets are for scarlett viper pilots. There is only one green jacket, and it was exclusively for Commander Apollo.
When we did the trailer, we very specifically did it with all the original uniforms, props and ships. But, since it was 20 yahrens after the exodus from the colonies, they developed a few improvements over the old vipers, and the scarlett viper is one of them. It's called a scarlett viper, because it produced reddish exhaust instead of blue. They're more efficient ships and make more use of the fuel for other things, like the wingtip cannons. Each scarlett has the original two pulsars, plus one on each wingtip, giving it five pulsar cannons. They're also faster and more manueverable. But, Starbuck still prefers his old style viper (at least in Armaggeddon, Richard's first book).
The cylons too still use their original centurians, but they've added the mechs (15 ft tall fighters with heavy armament) and the human chip cylons, which are designed to be more intuitive and independent. They were based on Baltar's brainwaves.... scary thought, eh? LOL I also created a flying drone for the cylons that had a roving eye, it was designed as local air support for ground troops. You can see the cylons on my website under the gallery, or go to the Battlestar Galactica Newslink and look for links from there if you want to see the designs I did. The human chip cylons have black armor and a blue roving eye. They were based primarily on the Ralph McQuarrie paintings, but were a blend betweent them and the original cylon centurian.
Additionally, in the trailer, we had cylon raiders that look almost exactly like the ones in the miniseries. They had the same forwardsweapt wings, and cannons mounted on the tips, but they also had the single roving eye, because they had no pilots. So, the mini and the Second Coming trailer do share a few parallels, interestingly enough. In fact, Starbuck has a daughter named Dalton, very similar to Kara Thrace (sans the cigar).
Also of interest, Lee Stringer, Gabriel Koerner, and myself all worked on both the trailer and the miniseries. Lee and Gabriel did the cylon fighter for the trailer and the mini. So, the similarity is probably no great coincidence, which may be an homage to Richard's trailer, I don't really know. I have no idea where the designs for the mini came from.
Ken
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January 2nd, 2004, 09:15 PM
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Warrior Ace
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Hey, all of that was cool info, I often had thought of these questions and have never voiced them though. Thanks for the answers.
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January 2nd, 2004, 09:47 PM
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Cool!
Thanks for all the great info, Ken!! I didn't know about the different jacket colors, I've only seen stills from the "Second Coming" trailer. Nice to know about all the attention to continuity, and hopefully I'l get to actually see the trailer one day!!
At least thinking of Katee Sackhoff as Dalton helps ease the pain of Kara Thrace!!
Cheers,
Kevin
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January 2nd, 2004, 11:03 PM
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Demonslayer Vulcan Torturer
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Glad to help!
Ken
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January 3rd, 2004, 12:24 AM
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Bad Email Address
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I kinda liked the old warrior jackets:
or Cain's jacket:
Reasonable at $250-300, http://www.battlestargalactica.org/
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January 3rd, 2004, 06:43 AM
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Fleet Modeling Machine!
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Ken
What do you make of this
http://www.scifi.com/mbb/browse.php?aid=10102
demaster2
In an attempted coup, **banned.site** reported Hatch'es attempt to steal the Battlestar Galactica franchise from Larsen:
This time the revival would be derailed in a nasty copyright fight and the disastrous Box Office numbers turned in by Todd Moyers Wing Commander made any revival look unlikely. In August of 1999, Universal Studios was coaxed by Richard Hatch to fight for their copyrights of the Battlestar Galactica property by stopping the Larson/Moyer production in Luxemburg. Hatch believed that Universal Studios might back his revival attempt if he proved that the property is valuable to the Universal Studios. The trailer and the rousing support by the fans of the property convinced Universal Studios to stop the Larson/Moyer production. The legal battle was the last straw for the investors in the Larson/Moyer production. They quickly pulled their investment from the production when it became evident that Universal Studios would retain the property. Larson/Moyer would however continue the project as a Battlestar Pegasus Movie since Larson was able to retain the rights to the Battlestar Pegasus and her crew. Without the support of the investors though, Larson/Moyer was only able to field a trailer of their Battlestar Pegasus Movie which was shown privately. The Larson/Moyer production just simply disappeared into the Hollywood abyss. However, this victory by Universal Studios left Richard Hatch still the odd man out with two new teams entering the Battlestar Galactica arena.
Say it ain't so.
Hatch shot all TOS in the foot and successfully prevented a remake that would have met with approval by TOS fans. Hatch recieve poetic justice when he was given the boot from the new BSG project entirely.
Steve
::jewels edit: manually removed that unnameable site::
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January 3rd, 2004, 09:16 AM
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Stablemaster, Livery Ship
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Steve, that would be a clone post or a newbie repeating something from the clonemaster's writings.
I beleive that article is utter felgercarb. But that website quoted was headed by a known liar, so there you have that.
And it was Larson's lawsuit for the theatrical rights in 1999-2000 that derailed Hatch's efforts or at least pushed him back to the point that Universal had both his proposal and the very hot Xmen duo of DeSanto/Singer's proposal to choose from.
Steve, no worries about Richard. He was only able to get the franchise back into the light: TPTB took it from there, and then got stupid when Fox backed out.
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January 3rd, 2004, 11:12 AM
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Dancing Viper Queen
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stevew
Hatch'es attempt to steal the Battlestar Galactica franchise from Larsen:
Universal Studios was coaxed by Richard Hatch
this victory by Universal Studios left Richard Hatch still the odd man out
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Three really ridiculous things jump out of that article. Hatch was going to steal what he was trying at that time to get Universal to do? And how is it that this huge conglomerate would listen to Hatch in this particular instance? They thought he was important enough to help them stop Larson so they used him, then dumped him? Good God, who comes up with this crap?
This is something I can't figure at all. I could at least understand where the mini supporters were coming from when they were trying to get the mini made and aired. Their tactics were horrendous but they were trying to accomplish something they wanted. Or so it seemed.
We now see the mini is a different property. The Larson movie stands as an entity on it's own. This sounds like they just want to stop the movie out of spite. What is it to them if a BG movie is made? Why hammer [!] away at us? WHY DO WE PAY ATTENTION?
I've given them too much of my time already.
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January 3rd, 2004, 12:10 PM
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Bad Email Address
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What does the last 3 posts have to do with Colonial Warrior Jackets??? Sounds like it needs to be pruned out of this thread and given its own discussion topic.
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January 3rd, 2004, 02:11 PM
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Demonslayer Vulcan Torturer
| Digital Artist | | BG: The Second Coming | | Special Effects Artist | | Battlestar Galactica 2003 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stevew
Ken
What do you make of this
http://www.scifi.com/mbb/browse.php?aid=10102
demaster2
In an attempted coup, **banned.site** reported Hatch'es attempt to steal the Battlestar Galactica franchise from Larsen:
This time the revival would be derailed in a nasty copyright fight and the disastrous Box Office numbers turned in by Todd Moyers Wing Commander made any revival look unlikely. In August of 1999, Universal Studios was coaxed by Richard Hatch to fight for their copyrights of the Battlestar Galactica property by stopping the Larson/Moyer production in Luxemburg. Hatch believed that Universal Studios might back his revival attempt if he proved that the property is valuable to the Universal Studios. The trailer and the rousing support by the fans of the property convinced Universal Studios to stop the Larson/Moyer production. The legal battle was the last straw for the investors in the Larson/Moyer production. They quickly pulled their investment from the production when it became evident that Universal Studios would retain the property. Larson/Moyer would however continue the project as a Battlestar Pegasus Movie since Larson was able to retain the rights to the Battlestar Pegasus and her crew. Without the support of the investors though, Larson/Moyer was only able to field a trailer of their Battlestar Pegasus Movie which was shown privately. The Larson/Moyer production just simply disappeared into the Hollywood abyss. However, this victory by Universal Studios left Richard Hatch still the odd man out with two new teams entering the Battlestar Galactica arena.
Say it ain't so.
Hatch shot all TOS in the foot and successfully prevented a remake that would have met with approval by TOS fans. Hatch recieve poetic justice when he was given the boot from the new BSG project entirely.
Steve
::jewels edit: manually removed that unnameable site::
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AIN'T SO
Ken
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January 3rd, 2004, 02:16 PM
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Demonslayer Vulcan Torturer
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They look great. Price too.
Might just have to check them out. Anyone buy a jacket from them? Were you happy with the turnaround time and the quality?
Ken
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January 3rd, 2004, 06:12 PM
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Bad Email Address
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I like the old ones too .....but forest green ........well........
it 'is' my color lol
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