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February 29th, 2004, 04:21 PM
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It's only true!
shiningstar, I could go back through and post the quotes where you've nailed it. Suffice to say between your posts and jewels, I don't have much more to say. Not 'til I see the movie, at least
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February 29th, 2004, 04:32 PM
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shiningstar, I could go back through and post the quotes where you've nailed it. Suffice to say between your posts and jewels, I don't have much more to say. Not 'til I see the movie, at least
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February 29th, 2004, 04:47 PM
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Welcome to the club Sycorax!
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Thanks ShiningStar, great to meet people like you, infact, there seems to be many cool people on this board.
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February 29th, 2004, 05:27 PM
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February 29th, 2004, 06:22 PM
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Grrrr. France never understands anything anymore. When I see things like this I see them as a nation that has fallen from it's former place of world leadership into the darkness of political correctness.
You know those crowds over half of which were in tears over Jesus' journey down the Via Dolorosa? It was Passover. In Jerusalem. Most of them were Jews too. I don't know how anyone could miss their faces and anguish over Jesus.
It doesn't matter who put him to death--Jesus came here SO THAT he could die and it had to be at the hands of another and the worst sort of death. The important thing about Jesus isn't who drove in the nails or handed him over (he forgave them!) it's who he died FOR! (everyone). Grrrr.
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March 1st, 2004, 08:19 AM
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I mean no OFFENSE to you Sycorax ........but for some reason I am not
surprised that FRANCE said no.
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March 1st, 2004, 11:54 AM
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Grrrr. France never understands anything anymore. When I see things like this I see them as a nation that has fallen from it's former place of world leadership into the darkness of political correctness.
You know those crowds over half of which were in tears over Jesus' journey down the Via Dolorosa? It was Passover. In Jerusalem. Most of them were Jews too. I don't know how anyone could miss their faces and anguish over Jesus.
It doesn't matter who put him to death--Jesus came here SO THAT he could die and it had to be at the hands of another and the worst sort of death. The important thing about Jesus isn't who drove in the nails or handed him over (he forgave them!) it's who he died FOR! (everyone). Grrrr.
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Fine words, I agree, but don't forget- spoken from the safe remove of an ocean away. We here cannot truly understand the reality of living, truly living in a place where the response to a religious or political disagreement is not bad press, but violent death. You honor the truth of Christ's sacrifice. They are simply taking what they believe to be careful precuations to prevent the sacrifices of, for instance, a busload fo children who may accidentally be on the wrong side of whatever group having whatever millenia old jsutification for he shedding of blood to prove themseves right.
I do not disagree with you. I simply remind you that we live in one of the few places where one can freely hold one's own opinions.
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March 1st, 2004, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Raymar3d
We all have things that we wish didn't happen. Like the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials. And of course, the holocaust. But all these things were fringe elements, led by fanatics.
Evil is often done in the name of God. I personally have always believed that's Satan's greatest tool, to decieve by doing "God's Will" supposedly, but really doing the opposite of what God would want.
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Well written Ken.
I couldn't have said it better myself. 
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March 1st, 2004, 02:33 PM
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PS- To clarify, I am not criticizing anyone's faiths or beliefs. I just would not want to be the one in their situation at the moment.
Do we have any French members?
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March 1st, 2004, 03:12 PM
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PS- To clarify, I am not criticizing anyone's faiths or beliefs. I just would not want to be the one in their situation at the moment.
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I don't think you were criticizing anyone .................
Come to think of it ..........neither would I.
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March 2nd, 2004, 05:01 PM
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I mean no OFFENSE to you Sycorax ........but for some reason I am not
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LOL! definatly no offense taken here about the French. I'm not their biggest fan right now. Most of them talk bady about Americans instead of appreciating us after all the lives we lost for them in WW2. They try to obstruct us any chance they get and they also had BILLIONS invested with Sadam. I'm even mad at Germany (I'm half-German too), because they had several Billion invested with that butcher too.
ouch! not like me to rant! sorry.
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March 2nd, 2004, 05:11 PM
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LOL! definatly no offense taken here about the French. I'm not their biggest fan right now. Most of them talk bady about Americans instead of appreciating us after all the lives we lost for them in WW2. They try to obstruct us any chance they get and they also had BILLIONS invested with Sadam. I'm even mad at Germany (I'm half-German too), because they had several Billion invested with that butcher too.
ouch! not like me to rant! sorry.
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Don't apologize. I'm french canadian american indian on my father's side and
part german on eastern europe on my mother's side and I see things YOUR
way 100%.
It's pretty bad when $ signs mean more then LIVES to people
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March 3rd, 2004, 03:16 AM
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I agree. I am pretty outraged with the Germans and French myself. (My late gram's parents were German)
I just choose not to see this particular movie because I am not interested and it has been to hyped!
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March 3rd, 2004, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Micheleh
Fine words, I agree, but don't forget- spoken from the safe remove of an ocean away. We here cannot truly understand the reality of living, truly living in a place where the response to a religious or political disagreement is not bad press, but violent death. You honor the truth of Christ's sacrifice. They are simply taking what they believe to be careful precuations to prevent the sacrifices of, for instance, a busload fo children who may accidentally be on the wrong side of whatever group having whatever millenia old jsutification for he shedding of blood to prove themseves right.
I do not disagree with you. I simply remind you that we live in one of the few places where one can freely hold one's own opinions.
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That's very true Michelle, very well stated and part of France's problem. They've driven religion and faith (of any sort other than humanism) so far underground that there is no tolerance for discussion. A very sad state for a country that is known for the beauty of it's medieval churches. I was riling about just how far they'd fallen. Their culture is moving the way of other great civilizations and it is a sad thing to watch. The deeper into a secular, humanistic or hedonistic bent a society seems to go the closer that culture seems to get to losing it's role as a leader among other nations (and sometimes losing it's identity as a nation too). I just hate seeing faith driven entirely from where the citizens of a nation can dialogue about it freely and have differing opinions.
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March 3rd, 2004, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jewels
That's very true Michelle, very well stated and part of France's problem. They've driven religion and faith (of any sort other than humanism) so far underground that there is no tolerance for discussion. A very sad state for a country that is known for the beauty of it's medieval churches. I was riling about just how far they'd fallen. Their culture is moving the way of other great civilizations and it is a sad thing to watch. The deeper into a secular, humanistic or hedonistic bent a society seems to go the closer that culture seems to get to losing it's role as a leader among other nations (and sometimes losing it's identity as a nation too). I just hate seeing faith driven entirely from where the citizens of a nation can dialogue about it freely and have differing opinions.
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Speaking of how 'far' France has fallen; If you want to see ANTISEMITISM in
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March 3rd, 2004, 12:35 PM
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and they call us "neanderthals"? What does that make them?
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March 3rd, 2004, 01:34 PM
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and they call us "neanderthals"? What does that make them?
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March 22nd, 2004, 02:15 PM
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french army rifle for sale never fired only droped once french tanks have 5 gears in reforvce and one in forword in case the germans get behind them how does a french ademeral reveive his fleet wuth a glass bottom boat hey froggie sperkendedouch no well your welcome 5 great uncles beaches of normandy let dig them all up and bring them home NATO JOKE DONT SHOOT THE FIRST TANKS YOU SEE LEAVING FULDA GAP IT WILL BE THE KERMITS GETTING BEHIND US death to the cyclons and the bombuilders sorry to rowen and all the muppet show fands eating my freedom frys howlin mad general mayhem |
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March 23rd, 2004, 12:59 AM
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The Jews that killed Jesus were a tiny, tiny fraction of the population, a cadre among the leadership. A bunch of Quislings who would have sold their virgin sister (at bargain basement prices, too) to the Romans for a continuation of their cushy, insulated position in an occupied country. To blame "Jews" for killing Jesus just because some were involved is like blaming Italians for killing Americans, if someone gets whacked by the Mafia. And let us not forget that He was Himself a Jew, and He forgave those who were killing Him.
As to the French, well, eventually, they will wake up, and realize that it isn't the Age of The Sun King anymore. No doubt, it will come as something of a shock to them, between their price-controlled bread, and price-supported wine.
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March 23rd, 2004, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Senmut
The Jews that killed Jesus were a tiny, tiny fraction of the population, a cadre among the leadership. A bunch of Quislings who would have sold their virgin sister (at bargain basement prices, too) to the Romans for a continuation of their cushy, insulated position in an occupied country. To blame "Jews" for killing Jesus just because some were involved is like blaming Italians for killing Americans, if someone gets whacked by the Mafia. And let us not forget that He was Himself a Jew, and He forgave those who were killing Him.
As to the French, well, eventually, they will wake up, and realize that it isn't the Age of The Sun King anymore. No doubt, it will come as something of a shock to them, between their price-controlled bread, and price-supported wine.
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Well said Senmut. Besides as I posted before .......Pope Pious 23rd (I believe it
was) gave absolution to the Jews in this matter for the very reason that you
posted ..........that it was the LEADERSHIP that insisted on condeming Jesus to
death not the population itself.
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