Star Kobol

[Darrell Lawrence]

Since it was never seen... design it!

[Titon]

I've always wondered about that. So do you figure she was a Battlestar?

[Darrell Lawrence]

Nah. I don't think so. I think it was something along the lines of what Steve had modeled, but of a political rather than military slant to it.

[Gemini1999]

I would have thought that it would have been along the lines of the Rising Star, but that's just me. I would think that a starliner with all of those staterooms and club/dining areas would be suitable for a meeting to sign a treaty. Of course, Cylons don't drink, eat, gamble or need sleep, so in this case, maybe not...

Bryan

[Darrell Lawrence]

I like the line of thinking in regards to the Rising Star, Bryan.

It's not a Cylon ship, and I am sure the Colonial Gov would have used it for more than just meeting with Cylons, so who knows.

BUT given they were meeting with the Cylons, I'd think it's have at least a little bit of military aspect to it.

[Senmut]

It was the Atlantia. Like Air Force One, it has a different name when the President is aboard. Like Marine One, Army One, whatever, for the U.S. President.
MAke sense?.

[gmd3d]

Originally Posted by Warrior

BUT given they were meeting with the Cylons, I'd think it's have at least a little bit of military aspect to it.

I would agree with this line of thinking ...

but to distract from the purpose of the thread . but I always thought that all the ships in colonial space would have been armed anyway given that the war has be going of for a thousand years etc.

light armament most likely,

[Darrell Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Senmut

It was the Atlantia. Like Air Force One, it has a different name when the President is aboard. Like Marine One, Army One, whatever, for the U.S. President.
MAke sense?.

No

Air Force One isn't used in combat or armed for combat like the Atlantia was.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Taranis

I would agree with this line of thinking ...

but to distract from the purpose of the thread . but I always thought that all the ships in colonial space would have been armed anyway given that the war has be going of for a thousand years etc.

light armament most likely,

Colonial Movers, Rising Star, Celestra... were any of those armed? They were in Colonial space

[gmd3d]

Originally Posted by Warrior

Colonial Movers, Rising Star, Celestra... were any of those armed? They were in Colonial space

no at least never shown to be, but i always thought they should have ,
given the colonials spent many years at war .. even light armament for raider attack ..

[peter noble]

Originally Posted by Senmut

It was the Atlantia. Like Air Force One, it has a different name when the President is aboard. Like Marine One, Army One, whatever, for the U.S. President.
MAke sense?.

Originally Posted by Warrior

No

Air Force One isn't used in combat or armed for combat like the Atlantia was.

I always thought it was the Atlantia as well (or some sort of space station) but comparing the Colonial service to the military of the US or any other Earth-based military is erroneous, that's the other show.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Warrior

Colonial Movers, Rising Star, Celestra... were any of those armed? They were in Colonial space

At the Very least the Celestra was armed. In one of the readouts it shows some armament aboard the ship. Coloinal Movers and The Gemini Freighter wouldn't be armed, since they were supposed to be just Trailer trucks in space. Rising Star, no, I wouldn't think so either, but that is an unknown.

the Star Kobol, to me would be a Government Ship. And in formation, or aboard a Military ship. I think It WOULD be armed, but I can see why it wouldn't be. Cylon and Colonial Leadership on an unarmed ship, equal security for both sides, signing a peace treaty.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Any chance you can post a screen grab of that Celestra readout?

[BST]

Originally Posted by peter noble

I always thought it was the Atlantia as well (or some sort of space station) but comparing the Colonial service to the military of the US or any other Earth-based military is erroneous, that's the other show.

In general terms, I think it would be ok.. Since both the Colonials and the Thirteenth Tribe sprung from the same root, it's likely that there would be some similarity in thought, at least at the rudimentary level.

Considering the reason for the meeting with the Cylons, in the first place, it's also likely that the meeting place is going to be on some sort of "civilian ship" and not an armed 'war' machine.

Additionally, I agree that the Atlantia was NOT the meeting place. In fact, when Adar adjourned the meeting, the sense that I had was that each member of the Council was going back to his or her own battlestar so that each could begin the journey to the meeting place.

My 2 cents...

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Warrior

Any chance you can post a screen grab of that Celestra readout?

Here you go, just take into account the ship is not the same design as the Celestra ended up being.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Then it's not the Celestra

Remember, the Celestra was the electronics ship, so they probably had info on all of the ships in the Fleet. That screen could have been another ship someone was looking info up on.

In fact.... that'd be a cool initial design of the Star Kobol (After all, that's what this thread is suppose to be about- Design the Star Kobol).

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Warrior

Then it's not the Celestra

Remember, the Celestra was the electronics ship, so they probably had info on all of the ships in the Fleet. That screen could have been another ship someone was looking info up on.

In fact.... that'd be a cool initial design of the Star Kobol (After all, that's what this thread is suppose to be about- Design the Star Kobol).

Hard not to be the Celestra when the screen is seen on Kronus' Chuttle during the Shuttle's Approach to the Dark Celestra The only ship in sight lol.

But that said, the Design itself would make a good ship to add to the fleet. And yes, possibly the Star Kobol.

[Darrell Lawrence]

Well, Vipers have had other ships on their screens before, so that shuttle having it up really means nothing. What to do on a trip between ships in a shuttle? I know! I'll look up some tech reading material!

[Gemini1999]

Originally Posted by Reaper

the Star Kobol, to me would be a Government Ship. And in formation, or aboard a Military ship. I think It WOULD be armed, but I can see why it wouldn't be. Cylon and Colonial Leadership on an unarmed ship, equal security for both sides, signing a peace treaty.

"It's a peace envoy, what possible trouble could there be?"

[gmd3d]

a face full of laser

[Senmut]

Originally Posted by Warrior

No

Air Force One isn't used in combat or armed for combat like the Atlantia was.

But at this point, the Atlantia is not expecting to go into combat. She is there to serve a political purpose, now that "peace" has arrived.

[BST]

Originally Posted by Senmut

But at this point, the Atlantia is not expecting to go into combat. She is there to serve a political purpose, now that "peace" has arrived.

Perhaps the Atlantia could have been used like the USS Missouri, at the end of WWII but, I think not.

The fact that the Quorum members left the Atlantia, each going back to his own ship, lends to the idea that the Atlantia was simply a meeting place, to go over final details prior to the signing of the Armistice.

[cyfilon]

jane seemor said once that the script says battlestar kobol any one have aopy of the shooting spript. also on the celestra thing.
when count ibus is talking to the councel you can see another named celestra class ship go by.

[Punisher454]

In the pilot it sounds like she says "Star Kobol" but she could have been supposed to say "Battlestar Kobol" They made a lot of mistakes.