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Old December 6th, 2003, 08:26 PM   #1
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Would you choose a viper or raider as your personal craft?

I would choose a raider. It's bigger and slower than the viper but it has more interior space. I could add leather seats, minibar, air conditioning, carpet, etc. Besides I think it looks cooler.

So which one would you guys want?
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Old December 6th, 2003, 08:33 PM   #2
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A Viper.

But, if I had the choice of ANY ship, I'd take the Big G!!
Hmmm, my own personal battlestar, kinda has a nice ring to it!!


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Old December 6th, 2003, 09:01 PM   #3
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As for your question, I think I would procure me a viper. True its kinda cramp, and not good for long trips. But you don't need a friend next to you to go someplace and I like the feel of rudder and stick flying. Or I would if I COULD fly.

Oh well... time to wash the car and speed down some mountain roads. Its a poor substitute for a viper, but muh more practical.
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Old December 6th, 2003, 10:24 PM   #4
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Yes a viper! It would be the ultimate flying rush!
Anyway, I heard Apollo say in an episode that it took two to fly the raider and the third Cylon just gave orders. Is that right? If so, a viper might be easier to fly.
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Old December 6th, 2003, 11:51 PM   #5
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I would choose the NEW raider from G1980, with Lucifer as my co-pilot. BTW, does anyone have a really good image of that ship that they can post here.

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Old December 7th, 2003, 09:01 AM   #6
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Another thing is that I dont think the raider requires a launch sequence like the viper.
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Actually in a raider one cylon gives orders, one flies it, and one mans the weapons. So if you just plan on flying it and not shooting it only takes one.
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Old December 8th, 2003, 05:10 AM   #8
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Some vipers allowed for a second seat behind the pilot. Apollo took Adama down to Caprica in his viper. In Galactica 1980 Troy flew Jamie back to the Galactica in his.

My choice : The viper.
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Old December 8th, 2003, 05:14 PM   #9
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Viper. No contest. Although the Enterprise would be cool. Holodecks and warp 9!
I know, wrong show.
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Old December 8th, 2003, 06:05 PM   #10
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I'm a simple girl. All I require is a couple of fast turbos, high powered laser cannons and a joystick.

My choice is Viper.
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I think you're right about that Amberstar .........still
Leather seats and a bar ............might not be bad after all
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Old October 21st, 2011, 02:36 AM   #12
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Viper. Since contact with the enemy is always possible, I would need a ship I could fly in combat, if I needed to. The Cylon craft is not single user-friendly.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 07:42 AM   #13
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Default Re: Would you choose a viper or raider?

Wow, this is a resurrected old thread, but seeing as I didn't answer it back then, my vote is absolutely the viper...
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Old October 21st, 2011, 11:29 AM   #14
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Viper. For one thing the launch sequence is second to none.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 03:47 PM   #15
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Let me think a centon....

Ummmm....Raid- NO, VIPER!!!! ALL THE WAY.
And you got storage space, or a place to transport a person.
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Viper, no doubt, and remember you don't NEED the launch tubes, that just speeds you to combat speed after leaving the battlestar.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 12:39 PM   #17
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It depends!
If you are going to need to take it into dogfightes, then the Viper!
In any other circumstances, the Raider.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 01:08 PM   #18
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Raider is admittedly more convenient for everyday purposes - flying your peeps around space. Yet I would never fly into combat in anything other than a Viper. (Ignoring the fact that the tri-engine design would be terrible in real spaceflight)
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(Ignoring the fact that the tri-engine design would be terrible in real spaceflight)
Only if they hit your high engine.
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Raider is admittedly more convenient for everyday purposes - flying your peeps around space. Yet I would never fly into combat in anything other than a Viper. (Ignoring the fact that the tri-engine design would be terrible in real spaceflight)
Has someone wind-tunnel tested a Viper model?
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Has someone wind-tunnel tested a Viper model?
Yeah, ME! I spray paint mine outdoors in windy Massachusetts, and they do great (the paint flows over them like a dream).
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I think if you enlarged the wings just a bit, you might get some flight capability in an atmosphere...it would sort of be like a Rebel snowspeeder delta wing design...sort of...
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Old May 28th, 2013, 07:40 PM   #24
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Sounds interesting. Be cool if someone CAD-ed one, and found out what is possible.
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I'm just waiting for the day when a amateur plane builder tries to make a viper with jets. Be a fun way to get to conventions.

In the meantime it would be fun to build a RC plane model, maybe start with the propellers and go from there.

I like the way this thread started. Viper or Raider. I would have gone into this saying "Viper" on the spot. The mini-bar argument is nice. I think ANY ship you can get up and has a bathroom should be considered. Thus why I would have thrown in a Shuttle craft which might have that AND a land ram!

Now if a Viper is like a modern day fighter craft they would have the vacuum hose for those long flights, and we saw they can be equiped with a jet cycle, so I guess it still comes back to the Viper.
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I had the same idea. Great minds.....
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I've explored the viper flight aerodynamics a little (not too much though).
The CG (center of gravity) would have to be really far back to work very well. That would require the forward section to be very light and the engines to comprise most of the mass.
Even then it probably still needs some forward canards added to have decent elevator control.

I think it would fly more like a missile than an airplane.

The pre-viper jets seen in the Caprica show with the forward swept wings might come close as they were.
I'm currently learning solidworks and inventor, when I get the time someday I'll try to set up some airflow simulations. Of course with my current schedule that could be a year or more away.
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Huh fascinating. Yeh my dad said the Viper was basically a "dart" in design, so flying like a missile I can see. But hey in space for most of the flying, and compensated by strong thrusters for the few times in a atmosphere, the design would work fine.
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