[Damocles]

Originally Posted by spcglider

Just like I would choose Voltron over Gundam as my personal giant robot any day... because Voltron has magical weapons and can repair itself from scene to scene whilst Gundam is CONSTANTLY in the repair shop getting a new arm bolted on. Colonial technology is MAGICAL. So in that sense, I'm sure the Borg would be curious. But like I said, it would be far more interesting to the Borg to investigate the Ship Of Lights... which can outrun a colonial ship in a hot micron. Or even better... team up with Count Iblis (I mean, wouldn't the Borg just be his PERFECT cup o' tea?... subservient, blindly loyal, ugly as sin...)

I prefer to consider it good damage control, solid applied engineering, and Colonial system redundancy.

Maguffin. McGuffin. Miguoughffin. That's what it's called.

Writearound. It's too expensive to simulate micro-gravity with SFX.

Your assesment of speed isn't in question. WHY would the Borg want rockets? Even fast ones? Its not a conveniently contained technology like Warp Drive. In order to adopt it, they'd have to re-write everything they do. They'd have to create a whole new infrastructure to support it. Its the exact same reason why we don't already have hydrogen powered cars. There's no need to as long as we don't have an impetus to change over to a different system. And without an infrastructure to support that system, the Borg would suddenly find themselves competing with the Cylon Empire for tylium... and according to your estimation, the Cylons are superior, so it would be a losing battle to begin with.

Niven's Kzin Lesson

http://www.oinc.net/knownspace/enc/display.php?477

The Kzinti Lesson. It states "a reaction drive's efficiency as a weapon is in direct proportion to its efficiency as a drive."

That is why we discuss fusion-pumped particle beam cannons as a viable weapon.

Once again, magic. We are simply supposed to believe that you can get anywhere in the universe in 5 minutes if you drive there fast enough. We never see evidence of wormholing or even spacewarp for that matter. They just simply arrive at a new destination and proclaim "wow! That was a long trip!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole

http://xxx.lanl.gov/pdf/gr-qc/9211012

Mathematical for now. Not magical.

Okay... you win. You are obviously a better B.S.er than I am. To be able to come up with that off the cuff qualifies you as a first rate artist. To compare real-world ship hull damage to special effects fantasy damage to a miniature model and quantify the comparison without batting an eyelash... I bow, most humbly, to the superior teller of tales.

What BS? I use the SFX shown on film and compare that supposed result to real world events, plus to what I know about metals. Too bad Berman and company didn't consult NUCOR or USX when they reviewed the SFX.

Except that Tylium is refined into Solium... which is the fuel that powers the fleet. Not the other way around. That's canon.

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Solium_(TOS)

There is confusion here. If the Colonials use solonite as an explosive, and then use solium as a liquid fuel, then I will stick to the science and regard tylium as an energizer and crystalline precipitate product-i.e. a salt.

Is that a ball of iron (spherical) with a constant external dimension equal to that of the widest point of New Hampshire? Or is that a ball of iron the diameter of the overall compacted surface area 1mm thick of New Hampshire?

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/new_hampshire.gif

Visualize it as a three dimensional ice cream cone-shaped object. 100 kilometers across at the base. The mass is about 10^16 tonnes.

Problem Parameters:
Projectile Diameter: 100000.00 m = 328000.00 ft = 62.10 miles
Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 295000.00 km/s = 183195.00 miles/s
Impact Angle: 90 degrees
Target Density: 2750 kg/m3
Target Type: Crystalline Rock

Energy:
Energy before atmospheric entry: -1.8 x 10e36 Joules = 4.35 x 10e19 MegaTons TNT

KABOOM.

Yet it still runs on refined tylium. At least that's what we are led to believe in the show.

If tylium is an energizer or a component of a ZIPPY lens, then what is the problem?

http://www.b5tech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156 ^1

zippy-zero point focal tap-a charge tap that plugs into the vacuum energy of the underverse that forms the true reality that Realspace and Hyperspace geometry overlays. There is a quantum potential energy function that governs how much energy you can pull out of the soup of particles that flicker into and out of our interactive perception that exists in this underverse. The most common particle that we see, that exhibits this "winking" behavior is the electron, and that is the basis for the Human version of the focal tap. It is why you will find Human(and Vorlon) propulsion systems negate the field effects of the second most prevalent technology in Known Space-that based on the graviton and gravitation.

^1 Shameless plug for me, below. I wrote that stuff.

http://www.b5tech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=187

http://www.b5tech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=227

Towards the end of the run of ST TNG we were "treated" to an episode where Wesley Crusher (shudder) is involved in a training exercise and a aerial display flying a one-man fighter-style craft. They discussed maneuvers that would have been impossible even for the Blue Angels. I'm sorry, but there is no way, from existing footage and if you suspend dis-belief to allow a Thunderbird to function in space like a Viper does (wings, jet intakes, braking flaps, etc.), that you'll convince me that Cylon Raiders can outmaneuver a Thunderbird. And Wesley's group was doing just that in their little Federation craft. If the Federation doesn't have highly maneuverable craft for combat (or otherwise), then why are the training vessels so superior to everything else we've seen? The existence of such training vessels would indicate that highly advanced and maneuverable fighter-style craft also exist. Either that or the Federation is wasting A LOT of valuable training time and money.

You just wrote it yourself. None seen, so none used.

Except that they couldn't hit a Ship Of Lights satellite ship. I think your estimation of Federation targetting is a little loose to suit your argument. Federation targeting is based on beam technology. Missed? Shift it while it's still firing to score a hit. Colonial energy weapons fire blobs of something that require them to be more accurate cuz they don't have the "fluff" factor of a beam. And frankly, I'd have to see a tally of hit/miss ratio culled and compared proportionally from both shows to accurately assess the efficiency of either targeting system.

http://www.b5tech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=144

Synopsis; you slash with beams and you should be able to slice with them at ranges up to your optical tracking limit. That is the way phasers actually[should] behave. Unfortunately;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRm0R...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAF3H...elated&search=

That is sufficient unto the purpose.

Nope, I dont mean runabouts or shuttles.
See above.

I do. See below;

On that, we are Agreed.


-G

Agreed.

Here ia a neutral source I use when I have to objectify SW vs. ST biases;

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/index.html

and another one;

http://www.orionsarm.com/

F.

As always;