BG-03: The Lost Warrior

[Flamingo Girl]

On patrol, Captain Apollo leads a Cylon attack force away from the fleet. When he lands on a remote farming world, he's befrinded by a widow and her son, and finds danger at the hands of a terrorizing thug--and his malfuntioning Cylon henchman named "Red Eye."


Series stars; Richard Hatch as Apollo, Dirk Benedict as Starbuck, Herb Jefferson Jr. as Boomer, Lorne Greene as Adama, Terry Carter as Colonel Tigh, Maren Jensen as Athena, Tony Swartz as Jolly, Laurette Spang as Cassiopia, Noah Hathaway as Boxey, Sarah Rush as Rigel, David Greenan as Omega, and John Colicos as Baltar.

Guest starring Johnny Timko as Puppis, Kathy Cannon as Vella, Lance LeGault as Bootes, Claude Earl Jones as Lacerta, Red West as Marco, Larry Manetti as Giles, Jason Donahue as Jason, Carol Baxter as Macy, Mary Kaye Mars as Vi.

(Thanks to Michael Faries Battlestar Galactica.com (http://www.battlestargalactica.com/about/index.html ))

[kingfish]

This episode starts off with Captain Apollo trying to decoy the Cylons by leading them away from the fleet. He runs out of fuel and must make a crash landing on the planet Equellis. Once on the planet he discovers a widow named Vella and her son Puppis. Puppis' father was also a Colonial warrior marooned there with no way home. His ship was incapable of flying. The people of the planet are paying tribute to a man named LaCerta. Lacerta's enforcer is a Cylon called RED-EYE. Apollo goes into the town dressed like one of the inhabitants and immediately is disliked by Marcos who used to be LaCerta's right hand man before RED-EYE. The episode was on the order of Shane a western that starred the late Alan Ladd. Vella hates guns because her husband was killed by one. Apollo can understand because Serina was also killed by a gun. Lance LeGault shows up as Booties who wants to kill Red-Eye so badly that he errantly tries with a Numo which is like firing a BB Gun. He is killed.

Back on the Galactica, Starbuck hatches a plan to try and lead Apollo back to the fleet.

Starbuck: Boxey has lost one parent, I am not going to see him lose another.

He and Boomer launch and head in the direction of Apollo's last transmission. Starbuck even tries to remain out there longer by CHOPPING the power. They drift for a time.


Finally Apollo finds out the truth about Red-Eye. There was a battle, a Cylon Raider crashed, and one Cylon survived with the belief that LaCerta was The Imperious Leader. Poor Red-Eye must need glasses. With this knowledge Apollo can take action. At first he believed there was more than one Red-Eye but this theory being proved false Apollo decides to challenge the Cylon in an old fashioned SHOOTOUT. Apollo wins but is still stranded. Vella finally realizes that her husband martin's ship may have the fuel Apollo needs to make it home.

Starbuck: Just a few centons more.

Boomer: You said that a few centons back

Both men feel that time has run out so they decide to head back when they hear.

Apollo: Recon probe three to Galactica, come in.

Starbuck: Is that you Apollo?

Apollo: What are you two doing out here?

Boomer: Well the stars looked kinda nice so we thought we would have a look around.

All three laugh.

Apollo: Lets go home.

They hit their turbos and are gone.

The last scene of the episode shows both Puppis and Vella looking up at the stars.

Puppis: Don't worry mother he will be back someday.

[skippercollecto]

I've never been quite sure how to spell Kathy Cannon's character's name. To me, it sounds like Apollo calls her "Bella." However, since so many of the characters in this episode are named after stars, I wonder if it's supposed to be "Vela."

Mary

[Senmut]

Yes, it is Vela.

[shiningstar]

Yes I believe it is Vela........

[goldcenturian]

important thing in the show. This show is slow too, like the Magnificent Warriors. However, Starbuck getting beaten by Boxey at Pyramid and Starbuck eating the bets was hilarious. The brief moment with Cassie and the ones with Adama on the bridge were good too. You knew that he was gonna do anything to keep Boxey occupied and find a way to get his best friend back! And Katee said Kara ( the new Starbuck in the mini) was just a great pilot who doesn't care about anything! The girl is not too bright!
Carolyn

[Dawg]

Actually, Carolyn, Katie is probably right. Kara Thrace just might be a hot-shot pilot who doesn't care about anything.

I doubt I'll ever find out, because I don't intend to watch the mini.

Now, Starbuck, on the other hand, was a rogue with a heart of gold, and cared deeply for his family and friends.

Am I right?

:D

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[BST]

YES, most definitely, YES.

Starbuck, Apollo, and Boomer epitomized "All-for-One, One-for-All" much like the Three Musketeers.

Each would lay down his life to save the others; Starbuck proved this in WOTG when he offered his life in exchange for Apollo's when Apollo's body lie in state aboard the Ship of Lights.

These actors portrayed characters that one could "look up to" and try to emulate. They were people to be proud of, very much unlike their 'mini' namesake 'psycho-babies' who bitch and moan about everything.

Oh well, I'll stop now before I ruin this reply with any more words about that stinkin', frackin', good-for-nothin' smoldering pile of daggit droppings.


BST :)

[LadyImmortal]

You're very correct, Scooter.

Starbuck hid his emotions behind that 'I don't care about anything' facade of his but that's all it was - a facade. Many people have seen the more caring side of Starbuck - the Starbuck that we know anyway. He's the first to volunteer if someone's in danger - or if he thinks he can save someone's life.

That's not being uncaring in my book.

--Rhonda

[goldcenturian]

You're right. The sad thing is when Katee talks about Kara she uses Starbuck, not Kara. That's what scares me. That someone out there may actually believe that OUR Starbuck was the same. Katee obviously thinks so, becasue she was comparing the Old and the New Starbucks at the time she said THIS!!!
Carolyn:confused:

[Dawg]

I know, but remember, Carolyn, Katee is just a child. She knows only what the producers want her to know, and says only what the producers want her to say.

Unlike Mr. Olmos, who's been around long enough to know which side of the bread his butter's on - and is in a position where he doesn't have to care.

Perhaps, as time passes and she grows up, wisdom will come her way.

But I wouldn't hold my breath.

I am
Dawg
:warrior:

[shiningstar]

You're right Katie ..............is NOT and NEVER
will be accepted as the TRUE starbuck ........
NO NOW!

NOT EVER!

[amberstar]

Our Starbuck is more complex than the Mini will lead this new generation to believe.
He was an Orphan, that was kinda taken in by Commander Adama and family. To his character this was his family! He would lay down his life for them, but he tried to keep his emotions hidden for fear of being rejected.
Thus we get the gambler, romeo side of Starbuck. This I fear is the only light that Moore will shine on his personality. What a complete loss! The Whole Idea of this makes me sick!!!
Enough about that.
The Lost Warrior was good in spirit, it showed how people can care about one another and refuse to let ones they care about become left behiend. You just don't give up on people that you truly care for.
Amberstar

[shiningstar]

You are so right Amberstar.

[originalsinner]

Shes a man baby! Dirk is "Starbuck" nuff said

[shiningstar]

so RIGHT Originalsinner!

[default]

I really love "The Lost Warrior" episode. It's my favorite episode. The part I like best is when Apollo takes out and puts on his blaster to fight "Red Eye." A chill went down my spine the first time I saw it. The Colonial Warrior revealed his true self to the townspeople. Nicely executed.

[Flamingo Girl]

The only thing that I don't like about it is the promise that Apollo makes to return for Vella. It irks me to no end when series' do that, have a character that is incredibly important to one episode, make all kinds of promises to the character about never forgetting, and returning, and blah blah blah, then never making another single reference to that person ever again for any reason for the rest of the series.

*adopts Dawg's Grrr*

[Muffit]

I like the direction the writers took this episode. So different from the ever-large metropolises visited in most sci fi series. And Red Eye was a great name.

I'm willing to bet the TNG episode in which Worf and his son are dolled up like cowboys in a western town got its inspiration from this BSG ep! Hey, somebody thought this was a neat idea!

Ooh, and everyone. SOMETHING INTERESTING. Watch the credits carefully. One of the characters is named Six!!! (Actually spelled, "VI"). Coincidence??? :)

:muffit:

P.S. FG, I have to agree with you about promising to return. In Trek that happened a lot, and rarely if ever did anybody return. Except in Wrath of Khan, and that was an accident.

[skippercollecto]

Muffit, I hope you aren't offended if I correct what you just wrote. The two waitresses in the saloon were named "Macy" and "Vi,"--pronounced "veye," as if it were a nickname for Violet or Viola.

Mary

[Muffit]

Thanks skippercollecto, that makes more sense. In the credits it looks just like "VI" so that's why I thought that. Oops, my mistake. :)

:muffit:

[Charybdis]

OK, I'm playing devil's advocate here. It is strange that Puppis says that Apollo told him he would return, but I guess that's Apollo's nature, not wanting to hurt a little boy who has his hopes up...

BUT, the part that I find intrigueing is Apollo's steadfast policy against using his blaster until he finds out about the Cylon connection. Granted, he was not too sure if Cylons were around, but he himself states at the beginning that if they didn't really know what Cylons were, then they weren't in force on Equellis. Based on that, he could have taken out Red Eye earlier in the story.

In fact, my main point about this is that he basically lets Bootes get killed with his rigid stance with not having his blaster. Then, right after Bootes is shot, Apollo learns of Red Eye's origins and then he takes his blaster out and shoots Red Eye.

Seems to me that Bootes was sacrificed needlessly...

[jewels]

Unless there's a colonial version of the Prime Directive....(had that been invented yet? I'm not good at Trek chronology).

[Muffit]

Originally posted by Charybdis
Seems to me that Bootes was sacrificed needlessly...

Ah, yes, but it makes for good drama - stirs the emotions a bit! We had to see at least one instance of a fatal showdown. Makes you so much more glad when he does finally take action and gun the confused Cylon down. Also, I think he was taking to heart what Puppis' mother said about guns. Apollo is ever the example in BSG.

Cheers,
:muffit:

[Pagz]

Fun how this "review" thread became a 'let's bash the new starbuck' thread. On the record, I like the new Starbuck. Not as much as I liked the old, but I have no problem with the new. In regard to this ep being the inspiration for TNG's worf in the wild west ep, I'd suggest that it is more than likely that this episode was based on the Star Trek OS episode "Spectre of the Gun"

[shiningstar]

I think you are sooooooo Right Scooter. This was a
great episode in my thinking.

[shiningstar]

I think you are sooooooo Right Scooter. This was a
great episode in my thinking.

[ViperTech]

"Apollo Goes West."

Great fight scene and good pacing in the storyline make for a great BG episode. One of the best of the early ones.

We get to see what becomes of the famed Red Light when a Cylon dies after Apollo disposes of Red-Eye. The shot with the light slowing, stopping and fading off is dramatic. A great piece of television. Lance LeGualt gives a very strong performance. It's a shame his character gets killed.

[shiningstar]

That was my take on it too vipertech.

[WARDAGGIT73]

**1/2

It's reasonably enjoyable stock western with a message about the line between non-violence and standing up for one's self...

[shiningstar]

**1/2

It's reasonably enjoyable stock western with a message about the line between non-violence and standing up for one's self...


Good point Wardaggit73! :thumbsup:

[Gunstar Aries]

Our Starbuck is more complex than the Mini will lead this new generation to believe.
He was an Orphan, that was kinda taken in by Commander Adama and family. To his character this was his family! He would lay down his life for them, but he tried to keep his emotions hidden for fear of being rejected.
Thus we get the gambler, romeo side of Starbuck. This I fear is the only light that Moore will shine on his personality. What a complete loss! The Whole Idea of this makes me sick!!!
Enough about that.
The Lost Warrior was good in spirit, it showed how people can care about one another and refuse to let ones they care about become left behiend. You just don't give up on people that you truly care for.

Very well said, Amberstar. I've always felt that Starbuck and Apollo were like brothers. Your analysis of the 'rouge and gambler' side of Starbuck being a front to keep from bing hurt I like too. I've always wondered if his 'womanizing' was a reaction to his being an orphan.

One of the many failings about the new series for me is the "Look how progressive we are!! We took two of the male characters and made them WOMEN!!" Yeah, at the cost of the two most prominent female characters of the original series!! Anybody seen Athena or Cassiopeia?

I better quit before I start an anti-BG-03 rant...

Regards,

GA

[shiningstar]

Our Starbuck is more complex than the Mini will lead this new generation to believe.
He was an Orphan, that was kinda taken in by Commander Adama and family. To his character this was his family! He would lay down his life for them, but he tried to keep his emotions hidden for fear of being rejected.
Thus we get the gambler, romeo side of Starbuck. This I fear is the only light that Moore will shine on his personality. What a complete loss! The Whole Idea of this makes me sick!!!
Enough about that.
The Lost Warrior was good in spirit, it showed how people can care about one another and refuse to let ones they care about become left behiend. You just don't give up on people that you truly care for.
Amberstar


Well said Amberstar ............I'm glad that you wrote this. Because it
shows the complexity of Starbuck's upbringing and WHY he was like
a brother to Apollo.

[Antelope]

I will return.

Each episode is a snap shot of a much longer journey. Maybe unknown to us upon Apollo's return he had a shuttle sent back to pick up Vela and Puppis. On the other hand it may have been a statement like MacArthur's "I shall return" to the people of the Phillipines in 1942. A statement he intended to keep. I am sure with the help of the 13th tribe Apollo may have believed the fleet would one day return.

Vela knew Apollo had a son and life back at the fleet. She wasn't happy with the danger that came with a warrior's life from her own words. She reached out to Apollo because in many ways he reminded her of her husband.

Even if Apollo sent a shuttle to pick them up I do not know that Vela would be happy or willing to exchange her farming life for life on the rag tag fleet. In the event such an event happened and they did return to the fleet I would question whether Vela would want to continue a relationship with Apollo. She would have a blended family with a kid who just lost his mother and a husband in a high risk military occupation.

All in all I think the two were brought together by a unique sequence of events but neither would want to continue the relationship after it was resolved. Unfortunately in any scenario Puppis was going to get emotionally hurt.

[shiningstar]

I will return.

Each episode is a snap shot of a much longer journey. Maybe unknown to us upon Apollo's return he had a shuttle sent back to pick up Vela and Puppis. On the other hand it may have been a statement like MacArthur's "I shall return" to the people of the Phillipines in 1942. A statement he intended to keep. I am sure with the help of the 13th tribe Apollo may have believed the fleet would one day return.

Vela knew Apollo had a son and life back at the fleet. She wasn't happy with the danger that came with a warrior's life from her own words. She reached out to Apollo because in many ways he reminded her of her husband.

Even if Apollo sent a shuttle to pick them up I do not know that Vela would be happy or willing to exchange her farming life for life on the rag tag fleet. In the event such an event happened and they did return to the fleet I would question whether Vela would want to continue a relationship with Apollo. She would have a blended family with a kid who just lost his mother and a husband in a high risk military occupation.

All in all I think the two were brought together by a unique sequence of events but neither would want to continue the relationship after it was resolved. Unfortunately in any scenario Puppis was going to get emotionally hurt.

You made some great points Antelope. Well said. :thumbsup:

[Aeneas]

My fave 1 hr ep. More later

[launchcruiser7]

:thumbsup: :P: :salute: one of the worst shows of the lot only boxeys card game real earth food (jellybeans)and rex cutters cylon talking to apallo all these planets with out weapons close to home worlds wonder what happened to them all best line in show top ten wa allmost givin up on you buddy by starbuck :cool: :warrior: :rolleyes: wonder witch ship martin came from, launchcruiser hawkeye detecting cylon fighters coming towards fleet gotta go see you in the officers club after we blow up those tin heads wish us luck :cry: for the cylons

[shiningstar]

I really liked this episode. I think Richard Hatch shined in this episode especially
with his interaction with the boy and his mother who he was staying with.

I also thought this was one of Lance LaGault's best performances EVER! :thumbsup:

[Senmut]

Call me dumb, or maybe sentimental...but I have always suspected that Apollo may have left more behind on Equellus with Vela than just memories.
BTW, does anyone know what it is that Red-Eye says, right before he and Apollo draw? I have replayed that part of the tape over and over, and cannot make it out.

[skippercollecto]

"The Lost Warrior" is the most melancholy of all the episodes--not sad, not depressing, just unhappy. Apollo is so obviously still in mourning and in shock at the sudden death of his wife that at times he seems a bit disoriented, or even that he feels nothing at all.
One of the things I always thought was wonderful about this series is that the writers made Apollo slowly recover from his mourning, and that it took him a yahren to do so, which I think is normal.

Mary

[Eric Paddon]

Call me dumb, or maybe sentimental...but I have always suspected that Apollo may have left more behind on Equellus with Vela than just memories.

I doubt that much since they never would have had the time to make that possible.


{QUOTE=Senmut]BTW, does anyone know what it is that Red-Eye says, right before he and Apollo draw? I have replayed that part of the tape over and over, and cannot make it out.[/QUOTE]

He says, "Uh oh!"

[bsg1fan1975]

Another stand out episode of the series. It showed the depth of someone in mourning for the loss of a loved one and the camraderie of friends who were not willing to leave a friend behind and so they risk it all to find him.

[Eric Paddon]

There are two things that I think are weak about the episode overall.

#1-Apollo takes a long time to realize that there's no connection between Red-Eye and a larger force of Cylons. He should have realized that the instant he learned that Martin's death brought no more Cylons many yahrens before. One might argue that Apollo is still not quite himself after Serina's death, but either way Apollo ends up showing very bad judgment that arguably costs Bootes his life by not choosing to act sooner.

#2-I find it hard to believe that this planet is not familiar with the war against the Cylons. There's some indication that they're familiar with Colonial civilization, but that would mean that Equellas had to have been settled before the thousand yahren war broke out and they became isolated from where their ancestors came from before news of the war developed. Obviously if they were aware of the Cylons, you'd have no episode, but that point IMO works against the credibility of the episode, whereas "The Long Patrol" works better with a planet on the distant reaches of Colonial space that had become forgotten during the early stages of the war.

[default]

:thumbsup: :P: :salute: one of the worst shows of the lot only boxeys card game real earth food (jellybeans)and rex cutters cylon talking to apallo all these planets with out weapons close to home worlds wonder what happened to them all best line in show top ten wa allmost givin up on you buddy by starbuck :cool: :warrior: :rolleyes: wonder witch ship martin came from, launchcruiser hawkeye detecting cylon fighters coming towards fleet gotta go see you in the officers club after we blow up those tin heads wish us luck :cry: for the cylons did apallo make it back
:salute:

[Bombadil]

Sure, it was "Sci Fi Shane". But it tracked with the show's portrayal of a universe where good and evil mattered. Morality and ethics were fundamental to the program. Apollo did not ENJOY being a professional killer. Not like in the recent movie which I didn't see, with the "funny" line
"Will I have to kill anybody?"
"Do you WANT to?"
Or in Alice's Restaurant, where Arlo at the draft board pretends to be a deranged psychotic who wants to kill and maim people, and instead of being rejected as a nut case, he gets a medal from a general who says, "You're our kind of man."
Apollo is not Dirty Harry. He is Shane. And that was a good thing.
:salute:

[Captain Morgan]

I was dreading watching this 1 "space cowboys" are lame I thought.I have to
say this episode is very good,I was not expecting that!It's taken 3 stories and
I've come to really enjoy and care about all the characters in this show.At first
I started watching the DVD's to get some 70's cheeze and so far I just keep
getting more and more into the whole fighter-pilots in space thing (the Vipers
made the x-wings look like a joke,why didn't I notice that when I was a six years
old!)BSG is quickly replacing old Star Trek as my 2nd favorite Sci-Fi show.




:warrior:

[Aeneas]

This one was always my favorite 1 hr. episode because it actually fleshed out the human drama as opposed to relying too heavily upon the technical/fx aspects of the show. Really, it kinda waxes on socio/political commentary: expousing the need for fathers(or some stability in families--Apollo playing "bigbrother/pseudostepdad to Puppis & Starbuck and Boomer filling in for Apollo with Boxey ) and the pros and cons of gun control(Vella and Apollo each losing a spouse to violence, Bootes' ultimate downfall due to his obsession with weapons/vengeance & Apollo ultimately having to due the "right thing" in order to remove a menace to the community.) Really good stuff!

[kingfish]

My Take:

http://pp226.proboards25.com/index.cgi?board=nope&action=display&num=1082814476&start=0

[BRG]

3 ot of 5 this time. :thumbsup:

This episode had two of the best laughs of the whole series. Starbuck & Blue Squadron playing pyramid for jelly beans, a downing fruit juice with Boxey was brilliant! Loved the "Your eating your bet" line! :D
The other was when Redeye, a Cylon warrior came riding up to the old west style homested with his armoured horse! :eek: :LOL: One of the most bizaar sights in the history of TV. :salute:

But a good, enjoyable episode. The shoot out between Apollo & Redeye was an excellent climax. And there was some good emotional drama to go with the action & comedy. But I have to agree with the point made about Apollo letting Bootes die, surely it was obvious to Apollo that Redeye was the only Cylon on the planet? It did seem that he let Bootes die a needless death.
BRG

[Senmut]

I wonder, since Viper patrols are always seen in pairs or larger groups, why is Apollo alone in this one? We don't see another Viper destroyed. Was Apollo acting irrationally here? Even suicidally depressed after Serina died, to be out alone?

[BRG]

I wonder, since Viper patrols are always seen in pairs or larger groups, why is Apollo alone in this one? We don't see another Viper destroyed. Was Apollo acting irrationally here? Even suicidally depressed after Serina died, to be out alone?

Given Sheba's comments in 'The Hand of God', this may be true. The only other time I recall a single Viper mission was Starbuck in the next episode, but that was a special recon Viper.

One wee point. He was on a mission to lead the Cylons off the Galactica's trail, but no other pilot's knew this, in fact Boomer & Starbuck pleaded with Adama to go to his aid. So perhaps Adama wanted as few people as possible to know about the mission, only himself, Tigh, and Galactica's flight captain- Apollo. Maybe being senior ranked pilot ment ONLY Apollo coud go on this mission. Just another possibility!
BRG

[Fragmentary]

I got the feeling that Apollo was somehow cut off from his patrol, or actually leading the cylons away from the rest of the patrol.

There is a really nice touch scene when Vela takes out her husband’s warrior jacket. The crew went to the trouble of putting a different patch on the arm. That’s the kind of detail, that when they get it right you don’t really notice, but if they had just grabbed a jacket off the rack with Galactica’s insignia, it would have jumped off the screen as wrong. Can that patch offer any ideas to which Battlestar he came from?

The second thing that really jumped out at me was the scene were Cassiopea finds Boxey playing cards with the pilots. Laurette plays that scene so well. And the way she speaks to Boxey made me kind of wonder what it would have been like if she has been cast as Serina. She seemed very natural and maternal.

[Senmut]

Excellent points, BRG. If on ly five or six seconds of screen time had been devoted to this, alot would have been made clearer.

[AJMarks]

This episode had one thing that actually had me scratching my head. Why was there a Cylon and a crashed Colonial warrior ship on that planet. I thought that they had gone though the void, and put some distance between themselves and the Colonies. This episode actually made me sit down and write a fanfiction story to tell where the Cylon and colonial warrior came from (Battlestar Argo).

Aside from that this was the first episode I ever saw and the gun battle at the end made huge impact on me. I still love that scene to this day.

[Lara]

This episode had one thing that actually had me scratching my head. Why was there a Cylon and a crashed Colonial warrior ship on that planet. I thought that they had gone though the void, and put some distance between themselves and the Colonies. This episode actually made me sit down and write a fanfiction story to tell where the Cylon and colonial warrior came from (Battlestar Argo).

Aside from that this was the first episode I ever saw and the gun battle at the end made huge impact on me. I still love that scene to this day.


I always wished the trip through the void, and the finding of Kobol had come later, after the 'colonial outpost' stories. It would have been good to have a defined differenece in the kind of humans they found the 'other' side, in that they had developed without intimate knowledge of the 12 colonies.. Becos we weren't told the extent of teh Cylon empire, the Cylons being there never bothered me as much,
It reflects the writing on the fly that was going on, and the lack of a well planned sequence.

Still like the ep tho..for its homage to classic westerns as much as anything

Cheers
Lara

[Lyra]

3 ot of 5 this time. :thumbsup:

This episode had two of the best laughs of the whole series. Starbuck & Blue Squadron playing pyramid for jelly beans, a downing fruit juice with Boxey was brilliant! Loved the "Your eating your bet" line! :D
The other was when Redeye, a Cylon warrior came riding up to the old west style homested with his armoured horse! :eek: :LOL: One of the most bizaar sights in the history of TV. :salute:

But a good, enjoyable episode. The shoot out between Apollo & Redeye was an excellent climax. And there was some good emotional drama to go with the action & comedy. But I have to agree with the point made about Apollo letting Bootes die, surely it was obvious to Apollo that Redeye was the only Cylon on the planet? It did seem that he let Bootes die a needless death.
BRG


The "jelly bean" scene was indeed adorable! And the punchlines were agreeably humerous!!, but one thing I found hard to digest visually, is the aluminium ten gallon cowboy hats that Apollo doned, along with the resident locals! Yes, a trés bizarre sight!

Somehow I felt, the western style didn't quite fit in with the rest of this very advanced star system of civilization, whose otherwise everyday garb was a fashion inspired by ancient Greek, Eyptian, and of the ilk alike to our own great earthly ancient civilizations, whom also possessed highly advanced knowledge akin to the Galacticans.
Cowboy style pertains to another era, and perhaps beneath the Galactica's universal intellect of all the colonies.

[Wildcard]

*EDIT*

[Bandit82ABN]

Martin was not from the Pegasus. Colonial Warriors from the Pegasus wear this patch on their right sleeve:

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm77/Bandit82ABN/SCARWAF.png

If you look at his jacket, Martin has this patch:

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm77/Bandit82ABN/18THMED-BDE.png

10 or so yahrens ago, there was a Battlestar on patrol in that sector of space. They ran into Cylons and a huge battle erupted. The Battlestar is never named, but clearly it wasn't the Galactica or the Pegasus.

Martin acted foolishly. Apollo was correct in showing restraint. As viewers, we know Cylons travel in at least three's. A pilot, Co-pilot, and the Raider commander. So upon seeing Red-Eye, Apollo was wondering where the other two Cylons he didn't see were. It wasn't until the end, that Apollo gets the full picture, and knows Red-Eye is the only surviving Cylon, with the other two being destroyed. That and the fact the Cylon has no clue what he is, let alone a Colonial Warrior is, is why Apollo decides to confront him.

This was an awesome episode, in that it further adds backstory to the series. It is a shame they never mentioned the name of the Battlestar though. With everything Martin told Bootes, I'm sure that would have been included.


Respectfully to all,
Bandit

[Senmut]

Does the patch on Martin's uniform match those of any of the others we saw in the pilot movie? There were a few there palying pyramid, from the other ships.

[Bandit82ABN]

Does the patch on Martin's uniform match those of any of the others we saw in the pilot movie? There were a few there palying pyramid, from the other ships.

No. The pyramid game was being played by the Galactica's warriors. The screen shots of the bridge of the Atlantia, are too distant to see what patch they wore, before she was destroyed.

As for surviving warriors from the fleets destruction, while they did go to the Galactica, you never see them onscreen. They, like the Silver Spar squadron, get absorbed into the Galactica's two squadrons (Red and Blue).


Respectfully,
Bandit

[Jubal]

I read that story. Very well written. I liked this episode. Especially the showdown between Apollo and Red Eye. I often wondered which Battlestar Martin served on.
I like the idea of the Pegasus.

Is there a fan story of the Pegasus and that planet?

Where can find any fan stories of the Pegasus crew? Maybe that might be a better question? I always liked the Pegasus mission... the actively work to kick Cyclon tail! (Jubal would have been a Pegasus crew member I always figure.)

[Jubal]

This was an awesome episode, in that it further adds backstory to the series. It is a shame they never mentioned the name of the Battlestar though. With everything Martin told Bootes, I'm sure that would have been included.


You know this is a area of the story that is always vague to me. Where there only 5 Battlestars at the time of the holocost? You are given the impression that there was a Battlestar for every colony, and should have been 12.

Perhaps this is why the pitch for peace was taken so quickly? Out of the great battles preceeding the holocost, 7 of the 12 were apparently wiped out.

Was the battle talked about in this episode the one that the Pegasus escaped from?

[Benedict]

Don't think Molecay was mentioned outside of Living Legend, that being the battle Pegasus initially escaped from and Gamoray being after Lost Warrrior.