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peter noble
February 3rd, 2007, 01:23 PM
These are from the Profiles in History Hollywood Auction Catalogue #16, which took place on July 31, 2003.

This is the first of about 15 pages worth of stuff.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/612/pih1ki3.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih1ki3.jpg) http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6396/pih2nd5.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih2nd5.jpg) http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7632/pih3iq2.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih3iq2.jpg)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5589/pih4nb8.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih4nb8.jpg) http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2323/pih5sk1.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih5sk1.jpg)

peter noble
February 4th, 2007, 05:38 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7485/pih6kj8.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih6kj8.jpg) http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8174/pih7cw6.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih7cw6.jpg) http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8365/pih8kb7.th.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih8kb7.jpg)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1151/pih9bf5.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih9bf5.jpg) http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8404/pih10ya3.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih10ya3.jpg)

dilbertman
February 4th, 2007, 12:57 PM
Cool! Keep it coming.

Jim :thumbsup:

peter noble
February 4th, 2007, 04:13 PM
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4268/pih11fe4.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih11fe4.jpg) http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7853/pih12gk5.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih12gk5.jpg) http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5715/pih13kj4.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih13kj4.jpg)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8999/pih14ar4.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih14ar4.jpg) http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3382/pih15gm2.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih15gm2.jpg)

Galactifan
February 4th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Cool! Post more pics.

peter noble
February 5th, 2007, 04:56 PM
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5862/pih16cb0.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih16cb0.jpg) http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9434/pih17xs5.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih17xs5.jpg) http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8222/pih18oa5.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih18oa5.jpg)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4335/pih19sv8.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih19sv8.jpg)

Done.

dilbertman
February 5th, 2007, 05:12 PM
Noooooo!!!

Need more.

Jim :duck:

spcglider
February 8th, 2007, 04:58 PM
Wow. Did I ever miss THAT auction. Not that i could have afforded even the suggested bids they have listed there.

Okay... so who got what?

-Gordon

dilbertman
February 8th, 2007, 05:15 PM
I got it ALL! And if you believe that, I have a Battlestar for sale.

Jim :rotf:

spcglider
February 8th, 2007, 05:19 PM
Tease!!

-Gordon

JLHurley
February 9th, 2007, 03:40 AM
Too. Friggin'. Cool.

Thanks for sharing, Peter!

peter noble
February 9th, 2007, 04:10 AM
Gordon,

Commander Adama's microphone would be a good one for recreation.

Best,

Peter

spcglider
February 9th, 2007, 08:39 AM
Yessir... and that very thought had crossed my bean several times.

Any idea who got it? I'd like a few more images and a size reference if I could get them. Otherwise, that's a pretty easy thing to make either in aluminum or resin.

-G

peter noble
February 9th, 2007, 09:19 AM
Yessir... and that very thought had crossed my bean several times.

Any idea who got it?

Sorry, not a clue. Someone with a lot more money than i've got! :cry:

spcglider
February 9th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Well I'd love to find out more about it and get back on the "obscure Galactica prop replication" tram.

If anybody knows, please, SPILL THE BEANS!

-Gordon

ernie90125
February 9th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I would love to see a listing of items, with the list price and he ending price. Some of the details are in a thread I did in another part of CF, but would love to see the info for other ones....

http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12818

peter noble
February 9th, 2007, 04:25 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8199/pih11fc0.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih11fc0.jpg) http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7739/pih12gt0.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih12gt0.jpg) http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8676/pih13qv4.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih13qv4.jpg)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/629/pih14xj1.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih14xj1.jpg) http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3649/pih15kx0.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih15kx0.jpg) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6880/pih17lx0.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih17lx0.jpg)

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5421/pih18wo2.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih18wo2.jpg) http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/527/pih19vp6.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih19vp6.jpg) http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2314/pih110oq9.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih110oq9.jpg)

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5097/pih111ya3.th.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih111ya3.jpg) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1015/pih112uw6.th.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih112uw6.jpg) http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6228/pih113wq3.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih113wq3.jpg)

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1964/pih114ca9.th.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih114ca9.jpg) http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7260/pih115ze7.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih115ze7.jpg) http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4886/pih116ll5.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih116ll5.jpg)

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9357/pih117lh4.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih117lh4.jpg) http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8332/pih118fp1.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih118fp1.jpg) http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2861/pih119lq0.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih119lq0.jpg)

spcglider
February 12th, 2007, 03:08 PM
I'm still dubious abut that daggit suit. It may be the original, but that fur is definitely not. If you look at the pictures next to it, you can see that the fur on the butt isn't laid on in the same pattern as the original. the original has a concentric-ring thing going on.

This one looks like it was laid on in panels. I work with faux fur on a daily basis making puppets. The fur you see on the prop in the auction is NOT the same fur as was on the prop in the show. So, IMHO, I'd say the fur has been replaced. Which would give at least a plausible reason why the fur texture is so different. No type of cleaning can actually ADD volume to the pile of fake fur. And Muffey is looking like he's got an afro.

-G

jjrakman
February 12th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Peter, some of these arent showing up

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7739/pih12gt0.th.jpg

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3649/pih15kx0.th.jpg

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3649/pih15kx0.th.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7260/pih115ze7.th.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih8kb7.jpg

ernie90125
February 12th, 2007, 06:14 PM
I'd love to see the final prices the items went for, added to each image, or listed in some way. If anyone kept a record ?

Centurion Draco
February 12th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Great Job Peter!
I have the BSG/G80 spacesuit (Worn by Kent McCord in G80, and I think RH in BSG) and I've never seen the pics from when it was in the PIH auction! Or for that matter the Dorleac sketch it was based on either! A real pleasure, thanks :)
Now if I could just get around to making the other bits to complete the costume........ ;)

Gordon,

I can lay the Daggit mystery to rest for you! If you watch the first episode of G80 (Galactica discovers Earth pt1) you'll see that particular costume (with the 'odd' wooly fur) and one other identically afroed! Now I'm not 100% sure if the new look to the fur is because of it being washed and harshly dried/brushed (although a similar thing can happen to old toys from that era if you try and wash them), or if all the costumes were 'refurbed' with new fur (possibly including the scorched one from FIS) and they wanted them all to match for use in G80. But either way, that fur does seem to be 'original' to G80 anyway ;)

spcglider
February 13th, 2007, 07:57 AM
That I will concede. :)

But I can say with the certainty of someone who works with fake fur almost every day that those two images do not depict the same fur.

I would think that you are most likely correct in thinking they wanted to have more than one daggit so they needed to match up two suits in the same color. Not being able to match out the exact fur and color of the original, and perhaps having to use the understructure from the FIS burned daggit suit, they needed to completely re-cover the suits to match them up. That may not be the exact sequence of events, but it certainly makes more sense to me than the fur somehow magically increasing in volume after a rough cleaning.

Thanks for noting that G80 tidbit! I'm gonna go look at that.

-Gordon

Centurion Draco
February 13th, 2007, 09:12 AM
That I will concede. :)

But I can say with the certainty of someone who works with fake fur almost every day that those two images do not depict the same fur.

I would think that you are most likely correct in thinking they wanted to have more than one daggit so they needed to match up two suits in the same color. Not being able to match out the exact fur and color of the original, and perhaps having to use the understructure from the FIS burned daggit suit, they needed to completely re-cover the suits to match them up. That may not be the exact sequence of events, but it certainly makes more sense to me than the fur somehow magically increasing in volume after a rough cleaning.

Thanks for noting that G80 tidbit! I'm gonna go look at that.

-Gordon

No worries mate :salute: Either way its a shame, becuase the original look to the fur was much nicer. This one is kinda sheep-like.
Does anyone know how many of these were made?
I always thought that there were three originals, but of course there may have been more of the chimp flight suits than the outer armour parts?

Its a shame for G80 that they didn't make some different colour ones! I always thought black would have been nice.
Still I suppose after seeing how difficult Evie was to work with at times, :muffit: I can understand why they didn't want a troop of them running about on set!

peter noble
February 13th, 2007, 11:46 AM
Peter, some of these arent showing up

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7739/pih12gt0.th.jpg

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3649/pih15kx0.th.jpg

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3649/pih15kx0.th.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7260/pih115ze7.th.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih8kb7.jpg

They're working fine for me.

Anyone else having problems?

peter noble
February 13th, 2007, 12:40 PM
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4291/pih120nw4.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pih120nw4.jpg)

Centurion Draco
February 13th, 2007, 01:06 PM
Oooh Nice collection of weapons there! I could find wall space for them!
hmm, which of the Alliance rifles was originally going to be the Colonial rifle?
Suprising how out of all the various weapons of galactica, only the Warrior laser is readily available!
Lots of Cylons need Rifles!!!!

spcglider
February 13th, 2007, 03:49 PM
Oooh Nice collection of weapons there! I could find wall space for them!
hmm, which of the Alliance rifles was originally going to be the Colonial rifle?
Suprising how out of all the various weapons of galactica, only the Warrior laser is readily available!
Lots of Cylons need Rifles!!!!

The item they list as "Eastern Alliance rifle" is, in actuality, a Colonial Rifle. They don't show it or discuss it in the show, but the eastern Alliance dudes don't have ANY weapons, so they raid the supply of colonial guns. You can see the colonial security using these rifles in an episode (I think it's Baltar's Escape... the same episode the EA guys use them in).

I have plans in the works to make replicas. And hopefully better than the originals which I understand were pretty flimsy. I don't know about electronics yet.. I still haven't been able to find anybody who can do a semi-complex set up for me to install in the copies. But I have full-scale blueprints from a studio original to work from.

I've been dogging this trail for quite a while and I can't admit to a whole lot of progress. Ive just been too scattered working on my comic book series and my television pilot. the project is big enough that I can't isolate a good amount of time to get it really rolling.

If it was smaller, I'd be all over it. So you'll just have to be patient.

-Gordon

Centurion Draco
February 13th, 2007, 03:58 PM
The item they list as "Eastern Alliance rifle" is, in actuality, a Colonial Rifle. They don't show it or discuss it in the show, but the eastern Alliance dudes don't have ANY weapons, so they raid the supply of colonial guns. You can see the colonial security using these rifles in an episode (I think it's Baltar's Escape... the same episode the EA guys use them in).

I have plans in the works to make replicas. And hopefully better than the originals which I understand were pretty flimsy. I don't know about electronics yet.. I still haven't been able to find anybody who can do a semi-complex set up for me to install in the copies. But I have full-scale blueprints from a studio original to work from.

I've been dogging this trail for quite a while and I can't admit to a whole lot of progress. Ive just been too scattered working on my comic book series and my television pilot. the project is big enough that I can't isolate a good amount of time to get it really rolling.

If it was smaller, I'd be all over it. So you'll just have to be patient.

-Gordon

Ooo bloody hell yes, I'd like one of those!

lol, you could start by doing a Cylon rifle, you know, just to 'warm you up' to weapons production? ;)

P.S. I wouldn't care about electronics! Would give me something to add as and when.

jjrakman
February 13th, 2007, 05:20 PM
They're working fine for me.

Anyone else having problems?

Hmm. I cleared my cache and they still don't come up. The last one listed looks like it's loading a .png file.

TwoBrainedCylon
February 14th, 2007, 09:56 AM
What to say???

Thanks Peter. Will take a while to sort throuh these goodies.

Sandy

jjrakman
February 15th, 2007, 11:41 AM
They're working fine for me.

Anyone else having problems?

Tried these at the office on my laptop. Still no go.

spcglider
February 15th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Ooo bloody hell yes, I'd like one of those!

lol, you could start by doing a Cylon rifle, you know, just to 'warm you up' to weapons production? ;)

P.S. I wouldn't care about electronics! Would give me something to add as and when.

Nope, sorry. There's other guys out there doing cylon rifles. If you look, you'll find them. I wouldn't be making them any more accurate or cheaper.

I'm all about the obscure stuff. That's why I'm looking at doing the colonial rifles (not really "rifles" if they don't have a "rifled" barrel, eh?).

If I can ever get good enough reference, I'm going to make a few copies of the colonial monocular that Jolly and Boomer use in LPotG!

-G

Sept17th
February 15th, 2007, 05:15 PM
If I can ever get good enough reference, I'm going to make a few copies of the colonial monocular that Jolly and Boomer use in LPotG!

14th Colony needs one of those. :D

Centurion Draco
February 15th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Nope, sorry. There's other guys out there doing cylon rifles. If you look, you'll find them. I wouldn't be making them any more accurate or cheaper.

I'm all about the obscure stuff. That's why I'm looking at doing the colonial rifles (not really "rifles" if they don't have a "rifled" barrel, eh?).

If I can ever get good enough reference, I'm going to make a few copies of the colonial monocular that Jolly and Boomer use in LPotG!

-G

No worries, I'll sort one out eventually!
The Alliance rifle would be a worthy project certainly. I kinda like the Proteus guard's rifle as well, I guess we can assume that they are also archaic Colonial, like the sixth millenium Viper and shuttle.
I'll have to have another look at the monocular again, I can't really remember what it looks like. Would certainly be a cool prop to have!
Have you managed to start the trail to back-engineer it?
Was it based on a real device (like the SW-ANH one) or is it a complete mock-up?

Draco :cylon:

spcglider
February 20th, 2007, 08:05 AM
No worries, I'll sort one out eventually!
The Alliance rifle would be a worthy project certainly. I kinda like the Proteus guard's rifle as well, I guess we can assume that they are also archaic Colonial, like the sixth millenium Viper and shuttle.
I'll have to have another look at the monocular again, I can't really remember what it looks like. Would certainly be a cool prop to have!
Have you managed to start the trail to back-engineer it?
Was it based on a real device (like the SW-ANH one) or is it a complete mock-up?

Draco :cylon:

Yes, in fact I have obtained some stupendous reference off of screen captures. I'm currently not allowed to share them nor am I allowed to divulge where they came from (sorry! There are deals with the devil we have to make in order to play the game! :devil: )

But I'm slowly working up some full-scale drawings to build from.

I suspect it's NOT an existing item. But I've been entirely wrong before.
There is a modern night-vision binoc/monoc that's REALLY similar in layout but not correct. I find it really interesting that something developed 25+ years after the prop would be so similar!

I'd like to corner Herb Jeffereson Jr. at a convention sometime and grill him about it. I know the actors don't recall all that much about the stuff they used in this or that scene, but there are generalized questions one can ask that will shed light on it.
Stuff that may seem mundane, but gives clues to what it might have been.

If nothing else, the eye pieces must have been scavenged from something. They appear to be gray or light blue rubber eye pieces. Like you look through at the eye doctor's office or that are on some older telescopes.

Anyway, in answer to the question, yup...I'm working on it. Not at a rate that'll be satisfactory to those who desire the piece, but I am working on it.

-G

Centurion Draco
February 21st, 2007, 06:17 AM
Yes, in fact I have obtained some stupendous reference off of screen captures. I'm currently not allowed to share them nor am I allowed to divulge where they came from (sorry! There are deals with the devil we have to make in order to play the game! :devil: )

But I'm slowly working up some full-scale drawings to build from.

I suspect it's NOT an existing item. But I've been entirely wrong before.
There is a modern night-vision binoc/monoc that's REALLY similar in layout but not correct. I find it really interesting that something developed 25+ years after the prop would be so similar!

I'd like to corner Herb Jeffereson Jr. at a convention sometime and grill him about it. I know the actors don't recall all that much about the stuff they used in this or that scene, but there are generalized questions one can ask that will shed light on it.
Stuff that may seem mundane, but gives clues to what it might have been.

If nothing else, the eye pieces must have been scavenged from something. They appear to be gray or light blue rubber eye pieces. Like you look through at the eye doctor's office or that are on some older telescopes.

Anyway, in answer to the question, yup...I'm working on it. Not at a rate that'll be satisfactory to those who desire the piece, but I am working on it.

-G

Certainly an interesting project! Be a nice addition to many a warriors uniform!
I'll try and have another look later, I seem to remember having an idea about it ages ago.
LOL, Deals with the Devil! It certainly can be ;)
Yeah, good prop research/pictures that aren't already out there in the public domain can be mighty bargaining chips!
I have no objection to people guarding their hard work/research (especially if its a project you are working on), as long as the props DO eventually get re-made and offered to the public.
Remaking one of these props is a lot of hard work for the chance (if you're lucky) to eventually sell a few and break even on the overall costs and help fellow collectors! At which point the research mostly becomes 'public' anyway, so everybody wins!
Look at Adama's dress medalion for example! You got that 'out there' to the fans and produced the only correct replica thats been made!
Its the same with several other items you've produced.

I know not everyone feels the same, and thats a shame because there is a lot of useful information/research being hoarded for no good reason, but there you go!

spcglider
February 21st, 2007, 11:43 AM
Well, there's a sliding scale for all this stuff.

I produced a few languatrons a while ago. They were based entirely on a few mentions of dimension from Chris Pappas and a little bit of comparative sizing from photographs. They were not 100% accurate as I didn't have any real in-person exprience with the screen used pieces, but for my needs, they were good enough.

But I've been completely blown out of the water by Chris' replicas. He's offering up some real gems lately. His languatrons are absolutely 100% accurate... cuz he based them on the real thing in his collection. And he didn't need to do them at all. He did them to offer them up to the fandom. Which is pretty nice of him.

So it's all a matter of time and desire. Eventually, there may be exposed info for every last piece of the proppage from the show... who knows? It's certainly the case with classic Star Trek, which I'm certain, has gone through the same info-obfuscation phenom that Galactica is currently in.

-G

Centurion Draco
February 21st, 2007, 11:57 AM
Well, there's a sliding scale for all this stuff.

I produced a few languatrons a while ago. They were based entirely on a few mentions of dimension from Chris Pappas and a little bit of comparative sizing from photographs. They were not 100% accurate as I didn't have any real in-person exprience with the screen used pieces, but for my needs, they were good enough.

But I've been completely blown out of the water by Chris' replicas. He's offering up some real gems lately. His languatrons are absolutely 100% accurate... cuz he based them on the real thing in his collection. And he didn't need to do them at all. He did them to offer them up to the fandom. Which is pretty nice of him.

So it's all a matter of time and desire. Eventually, there may be exposed info for every last piece of the proppage from the show... who knows? It's certainly the case with classic Star Trek, which I'm certain, has gone through the same info-obfuscation phenom that Galactica is currently in.

-G

Yes indeed, I saw those on ebay last week, very nice! A good job indeed.

spcglider
February 21st, 2007, 03:56 PM
Yup... accurate right down to the screws in the sides. I think they're pretty keen.

I hope he graces us with a screen-accurate replica of the medical scanner. Then I'll be plopping some sheckles down.

-Gordon

Centurion Draco
February 23rd, 2007, 01:55 PM
Yup... accurate right down to the screws in the sides. I think they're pretty keen.

I hope he graces us with a screen-accurate replica of the medical scanner. Then I'll be plopping some sheckles down.

-Gordon
Do you mean the little one, looks like a calculator with a red 45 degree display?
I was watching Cassie using it the other night, but couldn't see it clearly :(, are there any good shots of it in any episodes?