SAga of a Starworld SE/Re-edit [Archive]

September 15th, 2006, 05:38 PM

Mr Kerin sir, you da man! :thumbsup:

Or be that The Don! :cool:

But playing as a flash player file it seemed to have lost some quality. Will it be higher def on the DVD's for downloading and file burning etc?

Couple of questions and querries along with my fellow posters on here.

First. What was the first Battlestar destroyed in that clip? You didn't name her. Also i held up a large mirror of mine to some of the scene lifted from 'Hand Of God' that you've put in there to my monitor screen. To make the shots more different could you flip some of the Battlestar/Basestars in one complete shot over? So as to make them look more different etc. These might clash later with Hand Of God and Living Legend if they're overused again and again flip'em so they look odd but kinda wow factor feel almost as if to say it looks familiar but its new in a way too.

Darken some of the bridge shots as the insignia of the uniforms might stand out too much. Utterly love your use of the flipped shots here very much, but you could use some colour corrections and manipulate the lighting and a changing of hue colours of certain areas of the frame to your own particular tastes to change it all up a bit more though. Otherwise its just fine as is.

Second off, love everything else the crash landing of Starbuck's Viper with an additional extra scene of the Viper tumbling was practically jawdropping! Although, i understand you're squeazing all kinds of things in this new fan edit, please don't chop up the original filmed scenes in a haphazard way. Is there a way you can add most of your additions before and after scenes in the original pilot episode so your stuff can add beautiful additions without cutting up the original flow of the pilot.

Just a thought mind you, take it as you want David.

I still wanted to see the Battlestars pull off some tactical manuvers before buying it though. Makes us all wonder what you've planned for the Triton, Acropolis and Pacifica at the Battle Of Cimtar. And is the Solaria still going up last i wonder?

;)

The CGI used looks so Babylon 5-ish but in a great way, so it does indeed convey how you gone to the trouble of using effects without making it all too flashy. Dykstra's original still dominates, but all you've done is expand upon his work, excellent!

Also Jjrakman as usual has some nice ideas. But remember not all Pyramids were Egyptian in style and design, don't forget the Mayan Pyramids or Aztec style temples that could be thrown in there! Or several other ancient European touches from our history. It would be more exotic to see some East Asian cultural references in some minor few second shots and all, of the 12 colonies and shows others like for example; African and say perhaps Medieval 'anglo saxon' stlyed structures of the other colonies worlds but all with a major futuristic twist! I also loved how you've shown that on different planet's, the sky was either day or dusk and not did not have a night time sky setting everywhere when the Cylons struck with such terror. Can you make'em even more alien though? Surely not all of the 12 planets of mankind were blatantly Earth like, you could perhaps make the skies red or purple in other planet, make others even transparent somewhat with a murky colouring to show how odd and different each of their planets were from one another.

Like that lunar shot of the Vipers avoiding laser fire :thumbsup:

All i can say is, Sept17th, hire this man for your 14th Colony movie pronto now!

Hell i might hire you when that Richard Donner cut of Superman 2 is out. General Zod needs to takeover the world, and if its not finally put back into Donner's cut and we're still stuck with the Lester 'small town' takeover (bah). Well then i want David Kerin to make us all knee before Zod in an extended edition of S2!

Seriously though, respect goes out to you Kerin. You're a busy man but i hope real soon you'll spill the beans on your thoughts for the other Galactica episodes that you haven't done yet. But are planning to however.

KJ

jjrakman

September 15th, 2006, 05:45 PM

The Pyramids might be good. I stayed away from them since they are in the backdrop of the original Caprica sections and didn't want to overkill the pyramid idea, but maybe it does need one more or so in there somewhere.

If you feel that pyramidal skyscrapers are too Caprican to be everywhere, then maybe you could create modern skyscrapers that emody the same architectural hints as other ancient structures, such as Roman/Greek temples, ziggurats, the temples of Angkor, Aztec pyramids, even have syskracpers that look eerily similar to the monuments at Stonehenge. Heck, even Easter Island could be some kind of influence.

You could choose one ancient culture's architecture for each Colony to seperate them.

September 15th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Exactly, what Jjrak said.

So don't forget the Mayan pyramids either! *wink*

KJ

SilentBob

September 15th, 2006, 09:08 PM

FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to see the finished version.

dilbertman

September 15th, 2006, 11:16 PM

Uploaded some preview shots from the re-edit/special edition I'm doing with Saga of a Starworld. For those interested you can see them here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgRWZSmWZ9M

Still moving along rather well, but not sure when it will be done since I have a couple freelance projects coming up. But don't worry, it will get done. And in the end put on DVD with possible extras. May be a bit bigger upload, but hopefully worth it.

I know this is not exactly "Artwork Finished", but this is where all the other things have been posted.

I'll also put any updates under this thread.

Hope you like,

Dave
O' MY GOD! WHERE DO I SIGN UP TO GET THESE?

Jim

Aussie Warrior

September 15th, 2006, 11:18 PM

to get the other fan edits you must have BitTorrent or the other versions of it and then go to www.torrentbox.com and look for "Battlestar Galactica" make sure it is either "Living Legend", "Hand of God", "Return of Starbuck" and "Experiment in Terra"

September 15th, 2006, 11:36 PM

If you feel that pyramidal skyscrapers are too Caprican to be everywhere, then maybe you could create modern skyscrapers that emody the same architectural hints as other ancient structures, such as Roman/Greek temples, ziggurats, the temples of Angkor, Aztec pyramids, even have syskracpers that look eerily similar to the monuments at Stonehenge. Heck, even Easter Island could be some kind of influence.

I don't think Roman influences would be good to show in Colonial society. Considering how the Cylons draw from those cultural myths i.e. Roman Empire/Cylon Empire their Cylon Centurions etc! It would make more sense for their homeworld of "Cylon" itself to have those famed architectural hints should David Kerin decide to give us a peek at the Cylon homeworld in his Saga re-edit!

Aussie Warrior, your link isn't working cos your ".com" is rather a ".con"? Do an edit on your link to fix this problem.

KJ

Aussie Warrior

September 15th, 2006, 11:40 PM

hmm so it is off, instantly fixed...........now it should be fine

jjrakman

September 16th, 2006, 01:05 AM

I don't think Roman influences would be good to show in Colonial society. Considering how the Cylons draw from those cultural myths i.e. Roman Empire/Cylon Empire their Cylon Centurions etc! It would make more sense for their homeworld of "Cylon" itself to have those famed architectural hints should David Kerin decide to give us a peek at the Cylon homeworld in his Saga re-edit!

Aussie Warrior, your link isn't working cos your ".com" is rather a ".con"? Do an edit on your link to fix this problem.

KJ

That's probably a good point. But I think it would be a good idea to have each Colony's architecture based on a seperate ancient culture's architecture. Since it would make sense that if the 13th Tribe made it here to Earth and started our culture, the 13th Tribe would have been a melting pot and would give a reason as to why we have all the varied ancient architectural styles here on Earth. They would have tried to represent all the other 12 Tribes here on Earth through their buildings. And it would play into that whole ancient astronaut thing that BSG is so good at. But yeah, the cylons are Roman-esque. Maybe that's what the Cylon Home planet should look like then.

September 16th, 2006, 07:12 AM

Indeed!

However since the 13 Tribe left Kobol by themselves and didn't follow the other 12 colonists to form the great 12 colonies with the others tribes offworld after Kobol became an enviromental hazzard to live on. I think its fair to say your point probably takes effects long after the storyarcs of Battlestar Galactica conclude so long after the fleet reaches Earth and make their last stand against the Cylon Empire at Earth with all those factors included there or something or other towards that end.

If life here, began out there far as the BG universe is concerned. Then perhaps, long after the Rag Tag Fleet settles here after the final battle and theres all kinds of remaining artifacts from all aspects of each and every Galactica friend and foe on Earth, did we then incorperate it all into our planetary soceities around the globe many generations and centuries after their story is told.

Remember from our perspective humans think Earth is the motherland of human beginnings not some place called Kobol. Yeah the gamma signal in Hand Of God which Apollo picks up was the transmissions of the Apollo 12 N.A.S.A. space flight to the moon, and although that should basically put a spanner in both our theories! Lets remember the fact that, in space, signals can bounce around the universe for practically forever in a loop! It could've been out there bouncing around long after the Galactica got to Earth and the current crew of Starbuck, Apollo, Boomer, Sheba and company are generations long gone etc.

Guess as fans we're very particular about story continuity aspects, and want to give David Kerin here all our best in fleshing out Battlestar Galactica's epic beginning details foreground and backgorund, even moreso.

KJ

September 16th, 2006, 07:22 AM

But yeah, the cylons are Roman-esque. Maybe that's what the Cylon Home planet should look like then.

Yeah kinda like the 'Eden FX' footage pictures we've seen of Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto's Galactica project. Barring the fact it had one glass window looking pyramid in there as well, it does look very Roman-esque, with flags and collesium styled building everywhere as you get a birds eye view of a whole battalion and practical "sea" of Cylon Centurions in broad daylight in every corner of the city.

http://cylon.org/bsg/desanto-revival01.html

KJ

David Kerin

September 16th, 2006, 07:40 AM

Firstly, don't worry about me cutting up the original story line too much. In fact the only thing I may cut out is muffit biting the leg of the Cylon, then hopping up and down. Certain shots, like the Viper sliding, actually fits right into the scene as it was. It simply layers over what was a longer shot of the side view where you see Starbuck in the cockpit as it is sliding. So that scene fits without adding or loosing time and pacing. In all of these I have tried to do that as much as possible, since I don't want to alter the story too much.

Now in this there are additions, like some of the cut scenes from the DVD, and the additional destruction scenes. But those are additions, and there are little, to no subtractions. Only looking to enhance.

I do like the ideas of working in more iconic images like pyramids. I figure this is the real Battlestar Galactica, and why not embrace the heritage that was created with the original.

As for the battlestar destroyed, there is a nameplate in that sequence. In fact it is there for you LKJ.

And don't worry, the quality is only bad because it is compressed to fit on youtube. The original is all taken from the DVDs and at full resolution.

With the re-used bridge scenes, one of the problems is that we fans recognize the original footage so well that I know so many (as well as myself) will instantly recognize any shot no matter how it is treated. But I decided to still use them as I want to see some quick shots inside the battlestar. Yes they are shots used later, and I am reusing them in an earlier story, but in a way, that's part of the production charm (or curse) of the show... their reusing of quick shots here and there (not just talking FX).

September 16th, 2006, 09:20 AM

As for the battlestar destroyed, there is a nameplate in that sequence. In fact it is there for you LKJ.

Where? i haven't seen it, is it the Solaria? Or Nemesis? Still can't see it there boss. I'm hoping its The ""Charon" really, if so many thanks i'm very honored you've thought of me David. But now you might get everybody else asking for a piece of the cameo pie? ;)

Hmmm perhaps Kingjason ought to change that username to something else by now huh? We'll see.

I do like the ideas of working in more iconic images like pyramids. I figure this is the real Battlestar Galactica, and why not embrace the heritage that was created with the original.

In that case, could you pinch a few shots of the Mayan pyramids from the film trailer of Apocalypto and jazz them up for BG? Just another thought there. Realistically though you can pinch them from many other films.

Anyways no worries, i'm sure we'll be blown away with your additions in this fan edit. But i'm still hoping to see more aggressive Cylons, Cylon Raider pilots using a targeting system before making a kill, altered sound effects, hyperspace jumps of starship vessels, more sinister ovions, holograms, minor digital touch ups and the like etc.

And the DVD extras?

Hows about giving a few fans a DVD extra in the form of some alter shots of the Battlestar's nameplates with all kinds of names in various flyby passing shots. That way fans could possibly do their own 'Saga of A Starworld edit to their liking with the other ships?

Anyways, never mind us whacky fans. Keep on doing your thing David cos you know we'll appreaciate it all the more anyhow.

KJ

David Kerin

September 16th, 2006, 03:20 PM

Right after the first shot of the battlestar with the green planet on screen left, it cuts to a closeup of the landing bay exterior with the name plate with the "COLUMBIA" written right on the side. I went back to make sure I was not crazy, that it actually was there... and it is. There is a stock shot later from the show with nothing in the name plate, but the earlier establishing shot has the Columbia right there.

Will have to go back and add the name plate on the stock shot. But earlier... definately there.

September 16th, 2006, 07:46 PM

No, not that, we saw that nameplate. I mean the first Battlestar being blown to smitereens over the planet by two Baseships! The one with only one landing bay?

As in the fan produced looking version? I was wondering which ship she was?

KJ

BST

September 16th, 2006, 07:59 PM

KJ,

I know which one you're talking about. I've seen some renderings of that ship. Wasn't it called a Destroyer?

September 17th, 2006, 01:35 AM

I went back to make sure I was not crazy, that it actually was there... and it is. There is a stock shot later from the show with nothing in the name plate, but the earlier establishing shot has the Columbia right there.

Will have to go back and add the name plate on the stock shot.

Sound great, but i hope that one gets flipped as well. Cos the same stock footage of that shot turns up later when the Galactica's at Carillion under attack for Raiders etc.

Although the plate is barely in frame, so i'm guessing you might get L-U-M-B-I-A or on the usual side left hand side; "C-O-L-U" etc in the re-edited final shot.

Man i just can't wait for this thing! I also want to see the names of the other Battlestars to finally lay to rest all the debate about which ships were at Cimtar. The Triton, Pacifica, Acropolis. And of course possible exceptions of the Columbia and other ships (Solaria) patroling the local home colonies when the Cylons attacked etc.

Did you add any differences to the hulls of the other ships? Insignias, digitally add more laser turrets, change the colour of the hulls from one another slightly, different coloured engine exhaust hues, do they produce alternate ship engine sounding noise etc? And it seems in your fan edit. That the Cylons have a major advantage with those high 'Pulsar' laser cannons of theirs, but what can the colonial Battlestars do in return though? Even if their were mostly destroyed cos of the surprise attack save for Galactica. They must've tried using their "green shielding" or launched some counter attack measures before buying the farm so to speak.

KJ,

I know which one you're talking about. I've seen some renderings of that ship. Wasn't it called a Destroyer?

And does this destroyer have a name? Otherwise we've got another mystery on our hands.

A little humor here......

After the saga fan edit hits the torrent sites.

Fan 1: Man that David Kerin's the bomb, what a fan edited cut of Battlestar Galactica. Dude did you see it

Fan 2: Hell yeah, man it was off the chain! Universal seriously needs to hire this man pronto for an official special edition re-release of the series. If Star Trek can get a touch up hi-def job, so can Galactica.

Fan 1: Yeah.... but one thing puzzled me? What was that other new looking ship in the special edition?

Fan 2: Which one, the one with only one landing bay? I don't know what is it exactly. looked kinda cool though, i wonder what she could've done. I too did wonder a little what she was called myself.

Fan 1: Dude i sure wish i knew, cos you can't see the nameplate on the side too well ya know?

Fan 2: You can't complain though. I mean it took nearly thirty years to see the Columbia, Pacifica, Triton, Acropolis and Solaria all in there. And David Kerin truly gave the fans eye candy and thensome. Even going so far as to add all new ones too for fandom to get all giddy about. You aren't bitching about this kind of thing now, are you?

Fan 1: No of course not, but then again we're fans aren't we. and we've got another mystery on our hands again.

Fan 2: Nah, relax and just let Dave sort everybody's concerns out dude. He probably did it that way for you to make up your own mind which Battlestar vessel it was?

Fan 1: o.k. then, that ship was the... the, Event Horizon!

Fan 2: Eh......WTF?

:D

KJ

ernie90125

September 17th, 2006, 04:55 AM

I'm totally lost about this issue of which Battlestar we see. At 1:03 there is clearly a shot of the nameplate Colombia. And I must compliment it as perfect...you couldn't tell its not painted on the original model. A wonderful addition.

I hope the story will be told of many of the other Battlestars.....its fascinating to see how they met their fate.

David Kerin

September 17th, 2006, 06:38 AM

Okay... I get it now. The cgi ship over the red planet. No there is not a name plate on that one, and in all honesty, I don't think I'm going to show one. For simple editing sake, I don't think it necessary to go back and keep showing the name. I have it there to show a different vessel style, and that there was some other defense craft defending the Colony worlds.

As for changes to the hulls, laser turrets, engine noises, etc... some of that will probably not happen. First off there is not a CGI battlestar on hand that will look decent enough to match the original models. The main battlestars look like the main battlestars. We do see nameplates on them in the midst of the battles though.

Here's a question... we see five battlestars in the group. Yet I've heard the names Triton, Pacifica, Acropolis and Solaria. Add in the Atlantia and Galactica and you get six ships. Any concensus on what the actual 5 were? Now I did add a smaller class vessel into the fleet, so that would make up the sixth in my version, but just wondering. Although before asked, I do not show the name plate on the smaller vessel. Some has to be left to the imagination/speculation.

Other mentioned points, yes the baseships now have huge energy lense systems. However we have not seen these later in the space battles of Living Legend or Hand of God. In my little logic riddled mind, these laser systems need a close proximity to an atmosphere to actually functoion. Therefore they are only usable for planetary bombardments. And the green shields, well I may be in the minority in this one, but I always thought the big green shield in E.I.T. was a bit cheesy and a cop-out. So in that re-edit I removed it, and therefore in this version (or my mind's little Galactica universe) the big green shield does not exist.

Oh, and that shot of the Columbia sequence that is re-used later will be replaced. Now that I have the first third close to done, I will replace any of the repeated shots used in the final battle sequence, which may be darn near most of them.

BST

September 17th, 2006, 07:43 AM

Here's a question... we see five battlestars in the group. Yet I've heard the names Triton, Pacifica, Acropolis and Solaria. Add in the Atlantia and Galactica and you get six ships. Any concensus on what the actual 5 were?

You got 'em. Those 5 ships were what appeared on the Galactica's viewscreen.

;)

Seriously, I do recall Galactica and Atlantia from Saga....then, on GOIPZ the reference is made to Columbia being at the 'peace conference'. I do not recall the other ships being mentioned on the show.

September 18th, 2006, 12:30 AM

In background dialogue the other three Battlestars are mentioned on the bridge.

The Triton, Acropolis and Pacifica!

And as we all know the golden rule. Whatever appears on screen or is heard in audio is generally considered canon in any show/movie!

Confusion is partially cos of Vulpa's lines in GOIPZ about the Columbia being mentioned as being destroyed, fans always assumed this happened off screen however regardless. And the Berkley novels also places the Battlestar Solaria at Cimtar but says the Battlestar Pacifica was recently destroyed! The Solaria is the last ship destroyed in the novel version as Boomer and Starbuck attempt to get closer to her, she then goes up in a ball of flame.

Other names of the Battlestars as you all well know by now. Were released in various books of the series, novels, insider released info etc. As warships existing prior to the colonial holocaust etc. Just to give the Galactica universe some backgorund details i suppose, which is only to be expected!

That is until 2006 when a man called "Kerin" will change our outlook on the Battlestar Galactica pilot forever. ;)

Stay tuned!

KJ

Stevew

September 18th, 2006, 07:13 AM

WOW is all I can say David. I can't wait til it is done
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
S

September 21st, 2006, 11:20 PM

Say David?

Whats your project's official title going to be for Saga Of A Starworld! Especially for when its going to be eventually torrented on several sites when its finished.

Saga Of A Starworld - Special Edition? or Saga Of A Starworld - The Unofficial Special Edition. (my personal favorite but it ain't mine, so i can't claim it). Or how abouts; Saga Of A Starworld - The Fan Edition. Battlestar Galactica: Saga of a Starworld (being in the actual credits as the subtitle under BG?), Battlestar Galactica: The Version You Never Saw?

How does this sound; Battlestar Galactica: Saga Of A Starworld - The David Kerin Cut ;)

Sorry, but that rather humorous one couldn't be helped considering how some of us are expecting that other movie *wink wink* so badly right around the corner etc. If i had the photoshop skills you would see me insert a self made BG DVD cover hopefully reflecting the hard work that David's put in thus far!

Seriously though, since saga's the big one that drew record viewing numbers for Galactica and the one that started it all, and you've certainly given it the hands on treatment with golden gloves so to speak David. Can we expect a torrented DVD with bells on with a DVD cover and particular title to with your latest efforts far as your fan movie of Battlestar goes?

I think your fan movie of the pilot deserves its own 'subtitle' not only for the eventual torrent but for the editor's own nod to say this is his own spin on the great 1978 3 hour pilot movie which isn't to say it is a blatant ego trip for bootlegging.

Oh no sir....! :eek:

But rather a passionate fan driven special edition meant to celebrate the near 30th anniversary of the original series and is, and if anything a logical and faithful fan interpretation of an extension of the epic legacy and storyline of this great series' untapped, hidden and dormant potential given a new face lift by a talented fan editor who has inspired others to remember, discuss and think at great length about this TV classic and all the various directions it could've gone in. Its various unsolved questions and unanswered mysteries layed down in the original pilot movie and following series etc.

I'm hedging bets since so few Battlestar Galactica fan movies are actually made (something that'll change in time?) that this well crafted fan edit will no doubt grab positive attention fast. And thus needs a title of sorts to promote it out there to everybody?

Well what does everybody else say to this...

Titles for the Saga fan edit other than the words "Special Edition?"

KJ

David Kerin

September 22nd, 2006, 03:46 AM

Have to think about the title. I think I am leaving the film's opening credits alone, as it is already different from the rest of the series, and to me it is rather classic. With the musical score playing, it already starts it out with a nice epic feel.

A DVD cover... definately. I will be making one up and include it as a hires jpeg file in the torrent. Title on cover? Not sure. Maybe "Battlestar Galatica" in the big Battlestar type. Under that "Saga of a Starworld". Then at the bottom of the cover (under some pretty images, place the "Special Edition" line. On back with the description will be the disclaimer that it is a fan made special edition, no money has been or will be made from this... person must own legal copy of original material in order to view this... yada, yada, yada...

Fan films? I do wish more were made, especially with the quality that some of the other Trek or Star Wars fan films. It is nice to know one is finally coming. Part of the problem, at least I think, is that we are a smaller fan base than those other franchises, and we are too spread out. Hard to find a group in one town who would all want to do it. So it makes is a little more difficult to put together. Can be done though.

September 22nd, 2006, 07:46 AM

Awwwww. :cry:

I figured you'd at least go for Battlestar Galactica: Saga of a Starworld and put out the subheading in your fan cut giving the pilot a title. Ah well, still you make a fair point about BG being a definite classic that it is.

Hopefully when i get around to configuing the settings on a few editing programs i have on my computer. I might try out a version of the pilot that i have in mind, one that faithful to the series but also expands on the stuff that missing that editing can include somewhat in a few snipets of scenes given a spruced up feel and look etc. Before the complete series 2003 DVD came out, i once edited all the footage from the TV and movie versions of Galactica onto tape somewhere's that i still have. It's rough alright with two VCR's doing the edits (very primitive kind of editing?) but it gave me the expanded pilot with all the then available footage.

Guess as fans we enjoy more story thus want to extrapolate on everything!

But editing as you know David is a skill that takes time, so i wouldn't expect everyone to wait around for a KJ cut of Saga just yet. but one day perhaps ;)

A DVD cover... definately. I will be making one up and include it as a hires jpeg file in the torrent. Title on cover? Not sure. Maybe "Battlestar Galatica" in the big Battlestar type. Under that "Saga of a Starworld". Then at the bottom of the cover (under some pretty images, place the "Special Edition" line. On back with the description will be the disclaimer that it is a fan made special edition, no money has been or will be made from this... person must own legal copy of original material in order to view this... yada, yada, yada...

Multiple DVD covers with several options i hope. :)

KJ

David Kerin

September 22nd, 2006, 03:02 PM

I'll have to look at the credits and see if I can get the "Saga of a Starworld" in there. If I can get it to look right, I'll do it.

I like the idea of multiple covers, but I don't want to make them. I'll make one, but if others out there want to design a DVD cover for it, I'd certainly include that as well. Would be great to have 4 or 5 (of more) designs done by different fans. So please, anyone feel interested, please do it. Battlestar Galactica: Saga of a Starworld Special Edition DVD cover needs Designing!

kingfish

September 22nd, 2006, 03:13 PM

It rocks. Looking forward to seeing more. I liked that Steve's ship was in there also.

David Kerin

September 22nd, 2006, 04:59 PM

Got a couple of Steve's ships in there. There is another of his ships with the fleet in the beginning.

September 22nd, 2006, 05:36 PM

Colonial escort ships with the 5 Battlestars at Cimtar with small shuttles zipping in and out of the fleet! :drool: (faints almost)

Hmmmmm? :cool:

KJ

David Kerin

September 26th, 2006, 06:36 PM

Hi all...

Saga re-edit is coming along, and all the main "chunks" are in. Still tweaking the audio, color balance, adding more stuff ino the composites... etc. Thought I'd take a moment to get down the additions/alterations to the edit.

*Additional class escort ship to the fleet (Steve W's Ranger class)
*additional shuttle/ship activity in the fleet.
*modified Apollo/Zak launch scene
*viper flyby outside window while Adama/Adar talk
*opening gambling scene restored with Starbuck and Gemini (Jolly back hair and all)
*many,many more raiders in shots as they approach fleet/Zak
*additional sequences to fleet destruction
*Triton, Acropolis and Solaria nameplates on other Battlestars (Pacifica could be the smaller class)
*Atlantia death squadron kamikaziis the Atlantia bridge and hull
*projected displays on Imperious Leader chamber walls
*High energy beam from orbit strikes city behind Serina
*many additional colony destruction scenes. Orbital energy beam attacks from basestars (many different shots here)
*alternate basestar version based on Ralph McQuarrie design
*a DeSanto Viper appears in one shot.
*other colony planets/cities destroyed
*alternate class battlestar trying to defend planet (thanks Steve W.)
*outer planet destruction sequences
*the destruction of the Columbia defending a colony world
*enhanced Starbuck crashland shot.
*some additional fleet forming shots
*enhanced Baltar on Caprica sequence
*Adama saying to Athena that he plans to resign scene restored.
*Apollo arguing with Adama about resigning scene restored.
*enhanced Nova of Madagon. Not majorly changed, but added to some to the "nebulous" shots, and worked in some different viper shots.
*Viper passes over landram before "returning to base" on Carillon
*enhanced ovion mine sequence and entering Lotay's chamber
*add in additional shot as Adama enters council chambers just before Uri makes his peace announcement. (in movie version but was removed from pilot version for whatever reason)
*added laser streaks from blasters/Cylon rifles in ovion mine fight scenes
*shot where Muffit bites the Cylon's leg and the Cylon falls over is GONE!
*more fighters approaching fleet in final battle (over the horizon of Carillon)
*vipers on surface of Carillon. changed color from orange to match surface better... added figures walking/running in background matte painting... Vipers flying off and overhead
*added new shots to end battle to take out repeating footage, and place the battle more amongst the fleet
*changed shot of basestar over Carillon surface as vipers approach
*energy starts to strike from surface to basestar as basestar opens fire (over Carillon surface)
*baltar's "epilogue"... removed epilogue title... altered color (though still different in hue/lighting from first IL's chamber)... removed line about offering peace to the humans (more as it was re-edited for Lost Planet of the Gods)

The above list is a general overview, as there are numerous other subtle alterations that fall under that list's "umbrella".

Not ALL of the repeated shots have been removed, as some of the beauty shots (close up) of single Vipers or Raiders may still be repeated. The models still look better than CGI. So in the closeups I stuck with the original footage. For wider shots with multiple ships I did add more with CGI/compositing over original footage.

The major changes/additions are definately to the open/destruction scenes, and then the latter third on Carillon from the ground battle to the end of the film. Most of the middle is more character oriented and any changes there are subtle.

Current runtime is around 2 hours and 26 minutes.

I think that is the most of them. For now at least. Have to get all the tweaking done on these, watch it, then probably end up with a list of addiional alterations.

Will try to get a little more stuff on youtube soon.

SilentBob

September 26th, 2006, 06:51 PM

WOW!!!!!!! Can't wait to see it!!!!! :yikes:

Aussie Warrior

September 26th, 2006, 07:43 PM

thats a pretty big list of improvements, a definate must see

martok2112

September 27th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Now if we can only get it in THX. :D

Dave, that is quite a list of improvements there, and from what I saw in the previews....you lived up to it quite well. :)

David Kerin

September 27th, 2006, 03:06 PM

martok2112

September 27th, 2006, 03:51 PM

Unfortunately audio is not my strong point. While I know the THX was not meant seriously, 5.1 surround was asked about before. And while I wish I could, I do not have the audio knowledge to mix this thing into 5.1 surround. Wish I could.

And initially I was talking about adding in the Serina sickness scenes but decided against it as it does conflict too much with the Lost Planet of the Gods. Still have to go back and look at the final deleted scene where they are singing the anthem of sorts. My initial thoughts is it just looks too rediculous. But maybe with music added in, who knows. Not planning for it though at this stage.

The video making/editing program I have apparently has a surround sound mixer in it. I dunno if I might be able to help though. Since Galactica was shot and recorded in mono, I don't know if I'd have the means to be able to convert it to surround audio. (Besides, I've never really tinkered with the feature.)

David Kerin

September 27th, 2006, 06:18 PM

SilentBob

September 27th, 2006, 07:11 PM

David Kerin

September 28th, 2006, 03:39 AM

I remember it like it was yestersday. Being a little kid, watching the show, knowing I was already up past my bed time, then President Carter comes on. I was fuming! At least as much as a 10 year old fumes. Luckily my parents let me stay up to watch the end.

To this day, my dislike of President Carter has more to do with that than politics. Petty? Maybe, but he inturrupted Battlestar Galactica!

SilentBob

September 28th, 2006, 07:17 AM

jjrakman

September 29th, 2006, 08:34 PM

I was thinking for War of the Gods, in addition to adding in the mythical hooves scene, how about restoring the infrared sequences. I actually really thought those were pretty cool.

David Kerin

September 30th, 2006, 08:51 AM

I do like the infrared scene where he questions Iblis about Earth and Iblis admits knowledge of the planet. I don't think War of the Gods has that much I would change to it, other than the few deleted scenes, the hoove, and maybe enhancing the interior of the ship of lights. A little more glow/shine to add to the alternate reality feel.

jjrakman

September 30th, 2006, 11:22 AM

How about enhancing the game of Triad. Maybe adding some electronic "First Down" markers and such.

jjrakman

September 30th, 2006, 02:19 PM

Here's some other ideas:

When they go to the Agro ship to check out the fruit, they just show 8 pieces fruit hanging on a tree, hardly a miracle. Maybe show fruit magically growing, add piles of fruit laying on the ground.

When the ships get abducted by the Ship of Light, it's ok to leave it a mystery as to how it's done in the beginning. But by the time Boomer's Viper gets abducted, and Starbuck & Sheeba's shuttle, I want to see how the ships are abducted by the Ship of Light.

Also one of the deleted scenes shows them flying by a bunch of planets, that would be cool to put back in.

Oh, and is there anything you can do for the rope dance?

David Kerin

September 30th, 2006, 05:37 PM

Damn you...

Just when I thought I was on the last of the episodes I wanted to play with, you had to mention more possibilities with WOTG.

Triad game could be interesting. The planet scene in those deleted scenes though is the same scene used in Hand of God. So I don't know if they were originally to be used in WOTG, or it was a mistake on those who gathered the deleted scenes for the DVD set.

I would definately like to see (and add) a scene showing the vipers and/or shuttle plucked from space.

Rope dance... hmmm. Can't I just try to create an exact digital recreation of Lorne Greene and duplicate his voice patter to a "T"? That may be easier than trying to fix the rope dance. I still don't know if I'm attracted to or scared of the woman in the spandex doing the rope dance.

SilentBob

September 30th, 2006, 07:01 PM

Or replace the agro ship with an original design, instead of a re-used ship from Silent Running.

jjrakman

October 1st, 2006, 01:08 AM

I actually like the agro ship design.

bionicbob

October 1st, 2006, 01:05 PM

Hi! First time Forum writer here! Just want to say I just recently downloaded all your re-edits and have greatly enjoyed them! Wonderful work! Looking forward to your SAGA re-edit with much anticipation.

Had an idea though for it, had you considered re-editing the opening Voice-Over ("There are those that believe...)? Instead of the static shot of the starfield maybe have the opening take place ON EARTH. Keep the voice over but place it over a quick montage of ancient sites like the Sphinx, pyraminds of Mexico, Easter Island, the Nazca Lines etc. and then panning up to the stars and the opening credits.... probably a dumb idea but I thought I would share...

Anyway keep up the great work!

David Kerin

October 1st, 2006, 06:48 PM

Hi Bionicbob... that is actually an interesting idea. Would tie the link in story telling between us and the people out there. Will have to look into that.

Glad you liked the re-edits so far. These have all started as a fun thing for me to do on the computer, and a way to have that BSG fan geek in me be satisfied. I've found with each one ways to try to incorporate the new footage to hopefully make it blend a bit better.

I'm actually rendering the initial edit of Saga right now so I will be able to sit down at a TV, watch it, and scribble all my notes of adjustments to make. I do really like the idea though of imagery from Earth during the narration. Maybe blended in with the nebulous/starfield images.

Just when I thought I was finished!

Also... while I know the footage was stollen from Silent Running, I actually really like those models used as the Agro Ships. I don't think any CGI creation could do the same justice as those physical models. I look at the borrowing of footage as one of those means of television production in order to get more visual impact for the $$$. Kind of the same way a certain Buck Rogers in the 25th Century matte painting was used in Star Trek the Next Generation. (anyone else out there know which one I'm talking about?) Still not sure how that happened considering one was Universal and the other Paramount.

jjrakman

October 1st, 2006, 07:03 PM

I think I know the perfect transition for that new opening. After going through some of the ancient Earth ruins, sequay (sp?) with a shot of a primitive man looking up to the stars.

Something like that might be harvested from the movie Quest For Fire. Not sure though, never actually seen it. Just read about it.

jjrakman

October 2nd, 2006, 09:07 AM

Tried to grab Judgement Day and Experiment but looks like they aren't seeded.

http://www.demonoid.com/files/?uid=1245187&seeded=2

bionicbob

October 2nd, 2006, 09:20 AM

Glad you liked my idea.

The primitive man idea is pretty cool too, it never occurred to me (but then the whole Galactica timeline I am not clear on....how long ago did the 13th Tribe come to Earth? were there humans already on Earth? Saga says they are approaching the 7 millenium of Man but is that the age of the Colonies or their entire race...oh well that is different thread I will have to start elsewhere) .... along with Quest for Fire, 2001 A Space Odessy has great shots of ancient man looking upward.

I too like the original Argo ships, I wouldn't change them at all.

Too bad you are not going to include the deleted Serina scenes. While I understand they conflict future series continuity, they are very powerful and add a whole new tragic love dimension to Serina and Apollos relationship. I think it is one of the best and most touching subplots of the entire movie. I for one would love to see the scenes restored.

And if you really think about it, maybe it does not conflict with continuity at all. Maybe Serina decides not ever to tell Apollo about her fatal illness. And rather than succumb to its terrible effects she joins the Colonial Warriors, wishing to die defending her son and the Fleet than wasting away in a Life Centre chamber. What do you think? Or is that stretching it too far? :D

October 9th, 2006, 11:45 PM

Yeah, considering how it was originally recorded with the audio setup/mixing of the day, to go in and set up the audio elements for proper 5.1 surround would be quite an undertaking. I know the theatrical release was "sensurround", but who knows what that really entailed.

Thats easy just go here Dave...?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensurround

Done and dusted.

Anyways folks how things, been busy myself so tell me how it goes?

Saga re-edit is coming along, and all the main "chunks" are in. Still tweaking the audio, color balance, adding more stuff ino the composites... etc. Thought I'd take a moment to get down the additions/alterations to the edit.

*Additional class escort ship to the fleet (Steve W's Ranger class)
*additional shuttle/ship activity in the fleet.
*modified Apollo/Zak launch scene
*viper flyby outside window while Adama/Adar talk
*opening gambling scene restored with Starbuck and Gemini (Jolly back hair and all)
*many,many more raiders in shots as they approach fleet/Zak
*additional sequences to fleet destruction
*Triton, Acropolis and Solaria nameplates on other Battlestars (Pacifica could be the smaller class)
*Atlantia death squadron kamikaziis the Atlantia bridge and hull
*projected displays on Imperious Leader chamber walls
*High energy beam from orbit strikes city behind Serina
*many additional colony destruction scenes. Orbital energy beam attacks from basestars (many different shots here)
*alternate basestar version based on Ralph McQuarrie design
*a DeSanto Viper appears in one shot.
*other colony planets/cities destroyed
*alternate class battlestar trying to defend planet (thanks Steve W.)
*outer planet destruction sequences
*the destruction of the Columbia defending a colony world
*enhanced Starbuck crashland shot.
*some additional fleet forming shots
*enhanced Baltar on Caprica sequence
*Adama saying to Athena that he plans to resign scene restored.
*Apollo arguing with Adama about resigning scene restored.
*enhanced Nova of Madagon. Not majorly changed, but added to some to the "nebulous" shots, and worked in some different viper shots.
*Viper passes over landram before "returning to base" on Carillon
*enhanced ovion mine sequence and entering Lotay's chamber
*add in additional shot as Adama enters council chambers just before Uri makes his peace announcement. (in movie version but was removed from pilot version for whatever reason)
*added laser streaks from blasters/Cylon rifles in ovion mine fight scenes
*shot where Muffit bites the Cylon's leg and the Cylon falls over is GONE!
*more fighters approaching fleet in final battle (over the horizon of Carillon)
*vipers on surface of Carillon. changed color from orange to match surface better... added figures walking/running in background matte painting... Vipers flying off and overhead
*added new shots to end battle to take out repeating footage, and place the battle more amongst the fleet
*changed shot of basestar over Carillon surface as vipers approach
*energy starts to strike from surface to basestar as basestar opens fire (over Carillon surface)
*baltar's "epilogue"... removed epilogue title... altered color (though still different in hue/lighting from first IL's chamber)... removed line about offering peace to the humans (more as it was re-edited for Lost Planet of the Gods)

The above list is a general overview, as there are numerous other subtle alterations that fall under that list's "umbrella".

Not ALL of the repeated shots have been removed, as some of the beauty shots (close up) of single Vipers or Raiders may still be repeated. The models still look better than CGI. So in the closeups I stuck with the original footage. For wider shots with multiple ships I did add more with CGI/compositing over original footage.

The major changes/additions are definately to the open/destruction scenes, and then the latter third on Carillon from the ground battle to the end of the film. Most of the middle is more character oriented and any changes there are subtle.

Current runtime is around 2 hours and 26 minutes.

I think that is the most of them. For now at least. Have to get all the tweaking done on these, watch it, then probably end up with a list of addiional alterations.

Will try to get a little more stuff on youtube soon.

I bow my head sir, you're "the don" nuff said! Can't tell you how many people i want to show this to when its done. They rib me all the time about the new show, but thats only cos deep down they don't like remakes and have a fondness for the classic series themselves.

If i may, find a way to leak this to several of the original BG stars somehow and gauge their reactions to it?! Who knows they might be blown away by the love fans still possess over the original Galactica nearly 30 years and counting.

Hmmm? whats this, Jjrak telling you how to recut my second favorite BG episode next i see. Thought WOTG's was good enough as it is. Mostly everything in BG needs a Star Trek/Star Wars SE style make over BUT WOTG's. Yeah when the time comes for that one, i'll pass on my ideas to ya boss!

Anyways i'll see you guys when i see ya next time i pass by, in the meantime look out for that BG comic book from Dynamic Entertainment (which is currently delayed?) and take care of yourselves in the meantime o.k.

Be :cool:

:thumbsup:

KJ

David Kerin

October 10th, 2006, 03:46 AM

Well after this one I am definately going to take a break from the episodes for a while. There are some that could be fun to do, but this one had alot, and I need to get the heck away from my computer and video stuff. Do it at work, do it in a current freelance project, and do it for fun. So I think they're all adding up on me and I'll need to do something like... throw a ball. But heaven knows at some point I'll import that video and start playing around with something else.

Thanks for all the great support and kind words from all of you. Much appreciated.

Dave

ernie90125

October 10th, 2006, 04:07 AM

I can understand that David. You're work has given us enthusiasm and a major talking point for some time. Its amazing what one man can do. You're a credit to the fanbase !!!!

martok2112

October 10th, 2006, 04:17 AM

You deserve every bit of the praise, David. :salute:

David Kerin

October 10th, 2006, 06:09 PM

Thanks guys. That actually means alot. Being a fan for so long I probably would have done these for myself, but getting feedback and such positive support, well it makes all the difference in the world. I'm glad people are enjoying them. If anything, I feel moreso than ever, that the original Battlestar is not going away anytime fast. It has a big support out there and will be around, no matter how many publications try to tell us differently.

Aussie Warrior

October 10th, 2006, 07:42 PM

I just hope they reward the fanbase in the future and give us a movie

We've seen what David Kerin has done with the models of the Vipers etc incorporated into the original episodes, we've seen the pictures of what DeSanto planned out for a series in 2001 and we've seen what Richard Hatch envisioned in 1999, it shows that BSG can match the standards required for audiences in 2006 and could potentially do something people been asking for, tell a good story

October 12th, 2006, 05:40 AM

Think its fair to say, its long overdue that Galactica have some kind of special edition based on its pilot episode. Which was to be quite fair, bigger in scale than even the creator and producers knew of at the time.

The first of its kind that cost several million dollars and was very wide scale in its epic nature and depth as a vast space opera. Judging from the 3 episodes of the pilot, its no wonder David's spend alot of time gong over what made the pilot so inspirational in the first place. And as BSGDan said elsewhere's...

I can only come up with two things that would make this Special Edition of "Saga of a Star World" (and other episodes) happen.

First, the stuff that has been seen on YouTube. It looks very good, and needs to be completed for the entire episode. Stock footage that is seen over and over again in the original needs to be replaced with imaginative new shots of exciting Raider/Viper battle scenes. When that is done, it needs to be circulated on the net and throughout the fan community with an open letter to Universal about our desire for an official release of it. Basically, the same tactics that has led to the Donner Cut of "Superman II". It could be posted on-line, and DVDs could be made and distributed by fans to other fans before Universal's inevitable "Cease & Desist" order could be issued. By that time, it would be out there, and the people would be talking. That, of course, would lead Universal Home Video to revisit the idea.

Secondly, if the original episodes of "Star Trek" with the new digital effects proves to be a hit in both syndication and on DVD, Universal may want to revisit GALACTICA in much the same way (for DVD, since there aren't enough episodes for syndication).

So, Mr. Kerin, keep up the good work and give us what we want. It would be a shame if you wern't compensated for your work, but it sure would make many of us happy campers.

Dan

Lets hope just like several of the Phantom Menace edited Star Wars fan cuts, that other BG fans make 'Special Editions' of the pilot episode as well! Universal Studios would only take much more interest in Galactica's still untapped potential, if in some respects, TOS BG fans were taking a few liberities with what they owned and then they themselves might finally make the choice to fulfil every Galactica fans request and announce a set of "Special Edition" style episodes along with DVD extras that weren't released on the 2003 Battlestar Galactica DVD's the first time around.

You should be damn proud of yourself David Kerin, for starting this thing and getting its ball rolling. And i've meant what i've said throughout it all. You truly should have your work leaked to the original cast, Glen Larson himself and even Tom DeSanto. I'm sure they'd be flattered somewhat, and god knows if anything Larson and DeSanto need that kind of "mental" push from fans to motivate them into doing something with those copyrights for Galactica's film franchise if its not too late already.

You've given the old girl a paint job she's needed and addressed those nagging questions and errors of the series we've all wanted to see cleared up. I hope you'll could even perhaps hook up with Titon and a few other CGI artists on this BG website for example and together produce special editions of the other Galactica episodes with some help and input from one another. Won't happen now but perhaps such team work can come about later on at another date and time in the future so to speak?!

A collaboration of artists working together might make these BG fan edits even better and more of a fanbase thing rather than one person acting as a rogue outsider, and seeing this effort as a blatant "re-edit" of existing stuff to make bootlegs for the hell of it etc.

I just hope they reward the fanbase in the future and give us a movie

We've seen what David Kerin has done with the models of the Vipers etc incorporated into the original episodes, we've seen the pictures of what DeSanto planned out for a series in 2001 and we've seen what Richard Hatch envisioned in 1999, it shows that BSG can match the standards required for audiences in 2006 and could potentially do something people been asking for, tell a good story

Well said Aussie Warrior. Now if only those rich but 'out of touch' guys and gals in 'Armani' suits the boardrooms of those fancy Hollywood studio executive offices, who control all those multi-millions could see what everybody else, the fans and average joes have known for the longest time going. And actually invite Glen Larson and Tom DeSanto over for lunch and have a long ass chit chat over the film versions of the original Battlestar Galactica. And we'd have a movie series of Galactica flicks announced and going on into pre-production by now.

KJ

Aussie Warrior

October 12th, 2006, 06:21 AM

I think the man who done the Phantom Menace cut was Jack Marshall who worked on the Star Trek fan production "New Voyages" and now works on the current BSG series

They've said recently Star Trek was suffering from franchise fatigue etc but when Trekunited done a count up of fan productions the number sits currently at around 25 which is alot of series going on for a tired franchise.
BSG has some fan productions that we know obviously know about and that is a sign that there is so much life in the original BSG and that to satisfy their own tastes, now we got the fan edits it shows that there is a demand for new material even if the fans have to do their own supplying

hopefully a suit has to see this and push for Universal to start making a supply to satisfy the demand, never give up our day can still come

jjrakman

October 12th, 2006, 05:17 PM

I can't wait till I see DK's Saga. Man I really enjoyed this stuff. The only complaint I had was that the soundtrack on Judgment day didn't quite match up with the lips, was a bit delayed. Other than that, it's really great stuff.

David Kerin

October 12th, 2006, 08:03 PM

Hmmm... Judgement Day lip sync. Don't have that problem here, I wonder if something happened when I transferred it to xvid format.

jjrakman

October 12th, 2006, 08:15 PM

No biggie really. It's still enjoyable.

David Kerin

October 13th, 2006, 02:26 PM

Just an fyi, I have taken the re-edit files off of demonoid. Partly there was little to no activity, and I will be uploading the Saga re-edit hopefully within the week. So the files are out there, Bob and Aussie are helping to share, and I hope fans will share in other ways. Please feel free to make copies for friends who may be intersted.

I'll start a new thread when the Saga edit goes online.

Ah, the weekend is here. A little relaxing, a little freelance to finish, a little garage to clean out so my car can get in the garage... good times.

Stevew

October 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM

David
Where is it, I am a little lost
S :(

David Kerin

October 13th, 2006, 05:09 PM

It is not up yet (Saga). Will hopefully finish any final tweaking this weekend then will upload. When I get it uploaded I'll start a new thread in this section. So if all goes well, it will be online within the week.

Stevew

October 13th, 2006, 05:18 PM

Well get busy, let the lawn and garage go, your audience awaits
S :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
No rest for the wicked
:)

October 14th, 2006, 08:05 AM

Great to hear of David, thanks for the update.

And i also want to see SteveW's Galactica based ship designs in the extended pilot cut of BG as well. Looks like both of you will have the chance to show off your 3D CGI ship designs in this thing once its out there to all the masses online. Which no doubt further expands upon all the things in the Galactica universe in a positive new light.

It is not up yet (Saga). Will hopefully finish any final tweaking this weekend then will upload. When I get it uploaded I'll start a new thread in this section. So if all goes well, it will be online within the week.

Sounds all good. I was wondering though David. Would you consider releasing several alternate versions of the pilot re-edit that you've envisioned in the editing stages? By that i mean other concepts and ideas you might have had or abandoned etc. Or will you put up a minor deleted scenes section on your Saga DVD with alternate clips that you had in mind?

Also, i was thinking since you left out the SFX of the Sci-Fi Channel's re-imaginning version of Galactica in your "Saga" recut. Did you consider including any Battlestar Galactica cutscenes from the "Warthog" Video game? I'm looking for a website that rips video game cutscenes and wondered if you'd be thinking of doing another cut of the pilot later on and wouldn't mind including some of the game's footage instead, since the game is closer somewhat to the original series than the re-imaginning. Or at the very least is a combination of both incarnations somewhat?

Anyways just asking is all. Please don't think of it as any more burdens on your plate from us lot, seeing as you've done so much and need a well deserved break right now.

Wishing you all the best with this "granddaddy" of a special edition and future BG edits chief! :thumbsup:

KJ

David Kerin

October 14th, 2006, 01:46 PM

Good news is I can now get my car in the garage. One thing done. Second thing is re-arranging my daughter's room. Wasn't expecting that one. Well underway. Freelance project going okay. And my wife and I have a chance to get out tonight. So with all that, everything is going well.

I have a couple little things I'd like to change, and wondering if they are worth it. (in the re-edit) I know they're small, but they'll always bug me if I dont.

As for alternate versions, there really aren't any. One would have been the Serina illness scenes, but I scratched that early on so I never worked those in. And I initially used some Warthog game animations in the Experiment in Terra re-edit, but they really stood out against the original footage. So I eventually took those out and decided to stick as much with the original as possible. There stuff is beautiful though.

I'll probably put as an extra on the DVD all the raw fx footage created for the re-edit, for those who may be curious. If all goes well I may be uploading Sunday night.

Fingers crossed.

Stevew

October 14th, 2006, 01:49 PM

Sounds great David :thumbsup:
Now back to work
:rotf: :rotf:
:hack:

October 15th, 2006, 09:11 AM

The goosebumps are forming already for this puppy :cool:

Can't wait.

Anyways, how big will this thing be? Not that it matters to me cos if the iso for the re-edit is over 4 gig for quality and whatnot. I suggest everybody use "DVD Shrink" to make it ready to fit onto a regular sized DVD (4.7gig). Although i take it most people on here can burn a 'dual layered' DVD (8.5gig) though.

As for alternate versions, there really aren't any. One would have been the Serina illness scenes, but I scratched that early on so I never worked those in. And I initially used some Warthog game animations in the Experiment in Terra re-edit, but they really stood out against the original footage. So I eventually took those out and decided to stick as much with the original as possible. There stuff is beautiful though.

I'll probably put as an extra on the DVD all the raw fx footage created for the re-edit, for those who may be curious. If all goes well I may be uploading Sunday night.

Fingers crossed.

Yeah the 'Warthog' stuff is great, i figured the 'asteroid Viper/Raider chase' and 'Fuel Tanker battle' along with the 'hyperspace jumps', might be good to insert at the end of the BG pilot seeing as most of that had repeat stock footage used too much and all. And brief snippets of the Cylons talking to Imperious Leader. But then you'd have to include the Warthog styled Cylons into 'Saga' which is way too much to balance out here for a mere fan edit? Be better to make you're own fan film in that respect instead.

Moving on, i was thinking along some funnier humorous kinda way. What would be a great way for get Dave's saga recut out to the masses besides the internet?

So in jest, entertain these theories and wonder what might happen if this were so.

1) Hire the original DVD release of Battlestar Galactica from Blockbusters for two nights and replace it with Dave's cut when you return it. Then brag to the person on the counter Where exactly did you find this special edition of Galactica from, its fantastic all those new scenes and whatnot etc!.

Tell them its so good, that they should watch it, copy it and spread it around etc... ;)

2) Hire the original VHS tape movie edition of Galactica and record the David Kerin special edition cut onto a 3 hour tape, THEN return it back to the shop. [insert same counter conversation with the shop employee as before etc]

3) Instead of the latest movie being torrented online at the current moment, lie and replace the file with the DK BG fan re-edit. (downloading the wrong movie happens all the time doesn't it?)

4) Replace Empire Magazine's offer (see Empire Magazine out now!*) for a free DVD of the BG movie with Dave's cut instead. Ring up the Empire offices and offer them Dave's cut instead.

5) Get a job working at one of the biggest shopping mall chains, in the high street. And replace the movie versions of the official Battlestar Galactica movie DVD with the Dave Kerin BG fan re-edit SE of SOATW. Er....come to think of it replace the 2003 re-imaginning mini series for sanity reasons, with the soon to be released excellent DK cut as well!!!

:D

Ah, if only huh.

Seriously though, its only going to be for fan entertainment and further enjoyment of BG for fans and casual sci-fi folks alike. So i take it, the humor here is understood right? I'm passionate for BG, but not that PASSIONATE!

:rotf: :LOL:

KJ