DeSanto Bridge Concept...

[Titon]

Well i started it. I rebuilt the bottom section of the original Galactica bridge section to use as a guide from the blueprints. It's really early but for those that wanted to see this come to life it has begun. Stay with me, it may take me a while to flesh it out. Here's the first prelimary renders. Nothing special but it's a start.

Enjoy.

:)

http://www.7thmillenia.com/don/Bridge1.jpg

http://www.7thmillenia.com/don/Bridge2.jpg

I wish i could get a hold of the design specs since the bridge set was being built in Canada at the time. I only have the slide show material to work with so i'll probably put my own spin on a few things.

;)

[Warrior]

...hmp. 'nudder project started without a previous more important one finished... :P:

[Titon]

...hmp. 'nudder project started without a previous more important one finished...

Dude!

I only can move so fast on the G. When i run out of specs i have to wait until i, ahem, aquire more.

;)

[Warrior]

Why didn't you quote the :P: , dagnab it! :P: :P: :P: :hack:

[Gemini1999]

Don -

I don't know what Darrell means by "other projects", but it looks like this one is off to a good start....!

Bryan

[Titon]

:cylon:

[Titon]

Bryan, he wants me to finish the holy grail. The Galactica model that i've been working on recently. Well he's a big kidder but i'm trying to nail down some more measurements before i can continue.

I've been studying the DeSanto bridge here and thought i'd take a crack at it. We'll see how it fleshes out.

;)

[Warrior]

Projects, as in plural.

I'm stil lawaiting EITHER cetain models and a scene file so I can render it myself, or the renders themselves for sumtin' I want to do to the front page, which we discussed before ;)

[Titon]

I'm stil lawaiting EITHER cetain models and a scene file so I can render it myself, or the renders themselves for sumtin' I want to do to the front page, which we discussed before

Eep!

Looks for rock to hide behind!

[jewels]

Ow! Hey I was here first! Watch out, here comes Darrell! :duck:


Good first step.

Jewels

[Titon]

Darrell is moving to his Nevada condo rock soon!

So the LA Rock is mine!

:D

[dilbertman]

Well i started it. I rebuilt the bottom section of the original Galactica bridge section to use as a guide from the blueprints. It's really early but for those that wanted to see this come to life it has begun. Stay with me, it may take me a while to flesh it out. Here's the first prelimary renders. Nothing special but it's a start.

Enjoy.

:)


I wish i could get a hold of the design specs since the bridge set was being built in Canada at the time. I only have the slide show material to work with so i'll probably put my own spin on a few things.

;)
If I get to talk to Tom I will see if I can get you a set of blueprint and design specs from him.

Jim :thumbsup: :D

[peter noble]

Wow! And you better finish this else I'm going to give you a Chinese Burn mister! ;)

Great stuff, I think I'm going to have a bit of a weep now.

[Titon]

Great stuff, I think I'm going to have a bit of a weep now.

Peter, save the weeping till after i'm finished.

;)

[KJ]

Titon, if ever there is a Galactica continuation movie. you NEED to be the visual effect supervisor on it. Or play some role in making the pre-vis FX for it.

I mean everytime i come here to CF, i see new CGI work you've done. Where do you find the time man?

Sorry for going overboard and such. But you sure put the spark of inspiration in a guy who just happens to like the old BG series is all.

:thumbsup:

KJ

[BST]

Titon, if ever there is a Galactica continuation movie. you NEED to be the visual effect supervisor on it. Or play some role in making the pre-vis FX for it.

I mean everytime i come here to CF, i see new CGI work you've done. Where do you find the time man?

Sorry for going overboard and such. But you sure put the spark of inspiration in a guy who just happens to like the old BG series is all.

:thumbsup:

KJ


Ah, understanding the plan, he is.

:)

That's what it's all about and we have the easy part, we just get to sit and admire all this beautiful artwork!

:)

[Titon]

KJ, thanks for that. It's much appreciated.

If there is ever a post i'd like to sticky to this site it's yours. This is what fleets is evolving into and what i want it to be all about.

As far as me being in the fx dept. if a continuation ever happens i'd be most honored. Time will tell.

The time is something that is hard to come by. I should have this bridge fleshed out by now but havne't gotten any farther than what you see. But i will promise that i will do my hardest to get it done in the near future.

Thanks again folks

;)

[KJ]

Really if your skills are better now than they were 3 years ago when you made that kickass Millenia movie (unfinished by the way?) then a detailed Tom DeSanto concept Guy Dyas Galactica bridge would be classic.

And mouth watering.

And if i were you, i'd do it, finish it. print it out in hi-res onto a large sheet like a film poster.

Take to the Superman Returns premiere next year and wave over Bryan Singer and Guy Dyas saying: We haven't forgotten, nor will we forget your efforts for trying to present an epic BG continuation!

Since i seen alot of stars at premieres, thats exactly what i'd do!

Yep, cos in truth. i really should be getting along with plans in my own life and settle down doing my art. i really need to invest time in doing my own portfolio of art designs, sketches, inking art panels, black and white comics etc. If i want to get anywhere in life. Maybe one day i'll give 3D CGI designs a go. But i'd have to go down an venue i know first hand, before i branch out so soon.

Still, inspirational stuff man. your workload speaks for itself, you don't need me to tell you that anyways. but it did. ;)

Do you plan on doing all the Guy Dyas stuff?

Perhaps a little Vincent Guastini 'Cylon designs' thrown in for good measure too.

And even the badass Eric Melson 'Cylon' from Richard Hatch's Galactica trailer!

Meh...a few suggestions.

:) :thumbsup:

KJ

[KJ]

Hey, for all you digital artist here! I came across this only today while lookiing for something else i.e. film related. Tell me what you make of it.

Check this out.

http://www.cgproshop.com/product/000001/?PHPSESSID=738e036babdce4c427e0d106c61e670d#


:salute:

KJ

[Titon]

Thanks again KJ.

;)

[Taranis]

Nice site KJ .. any more on the bridge Titon???

[Gemini1999]

Hey, for all you digital artist here! I came across this only today while lookiing for something else i.e. film related. Tell me what you make of it.

Check this out.

http://www.cgproshop.com/product/000001/?PHPSESSID=738e036babdce4c427e0d106c61e670d#

KJ -

That looks really interesting! There's some really nice pics at the link in question. I really like this one:

http://www.cgproshop.com/products/books/expose1/expose01.jpg

With tools like that at your disposal, your imagination can become a reality of sorts.

Damn - I need a new PC, more money and time.....I wanna do stuff like that!

Best,
Bryan

[Taranis]

Yeah thats the one I like too.. looks like a lot of fun :)

[KJ]

Thanks fellas. i've put that site on my favorites to explore much later on. It's interesting. Seems to have minor downloads for software. Although not the full programs.

PC, Mac and Linux users are all able to get something out of those programs it looks like.

I'd love to break into doing using such programs, but like Gemini says. time and money. cos i too need to get a new PC. And will have one real soon, superfast processors which will be able to handle all the latest video editing programs and CGI 3D art software programs to boot.

But i should keep it real and start off slow though. Wouldn't mind filling a porfolio with work that looked like the stuff on those webpages. Eyecandy galore and then some.

Here's another link to another page off there.

http://www.cgproshop.com/product/000085/

Beautiful stuff. Thats the kind of work i want to do. And 'SHOULD' have been doing for years now.

Oh and nice avatar Taranis! Silver Surfer lover are ya? :salute:

:cool:

KJ

[dilbertman]

If I get to talk to Tom I will see if I can get you a set of blueprint and design specs from him.

Jim :thumbsup: :D
Titon

Check your PM.

Jim :thumbsup:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

This is something I definitely want to see finished.

Sandy

[Titon]

Sorry guys for no updates. Been so busy with work and business i've had no time in front of the puter.

Soon

:)

[Westy]

Sweet, I can't wait to see this. I have a set of the TOS blueprints from the 70's around here somewhere. I modeled the main console. Too many buttons!

[mikala]

Wow just found this site. Some very very good work going on!

[KJ]

Hello to the new person here at fleets.

Yep, when Titon does something to surprise you he'll blown you down and away. to actually see Guy Dyas's DeSanto's style bridge in 3 dimensions rendered in CGI with Titon's skills on a computer is something else.

If i can made any suggestions, i'd like to see Titon do. As DeSanto once planned. A Galactica with huge "Starblazers" type guns! :D

I personally now want to see Titon and others do Richard Hatch's Scarlet Viper and the Supercylon Basestar? After seeing the Second Coming trailer last weekend at Memorabilia. One was only mouth watering at the possibilites of fan versions turning up sooner or later of this killer Cylon vessel and the sleeker 'Vipers' and the Cylon Raiders from the Richard Hatch trailer? It's been about for years i'm stunned no one's done that yet.

See Mikala, Titon Taranis and others have untold potenial far as making beautiful designs and their talent with a PC/MAC CGI model rendering tools. As i said before the workload from all the artist here surprises me to no end.

Titon we can't wait to see the finished version!

And er....that "Battlestar Millenia" thing too one day! ;)

KJ

[gpdesigner]

Titon, . . . . nice start on the bridge I am looking forward to seeing that finished,
I am just finding out about DeSanto and were he fits into the BSG scheme. It seems he had the original project for the new updated version or continuation of BSG, "is this right?".
Anyway . . seeing some of his concept work may be a real treat.
I am also interested in seeing this galactica you all were talking about, what does it entail (sp) ?

T

[Titon]

It seems he had the original project for the new updated version or continuation of BSG, "is this right?".

You are correct sir. Check the site for CA's interview with Tom DeSanto. You can either read the transcript over at CA or download the 3 part podcast interview from either Fleets of CA.

It seems he had the original project for the new updated version or continuation of BSG, "is this right?".

I presume your talking about the original Galactica cg model?

[gpdesigner]

I presume your talking about the original Galactica cg model?

That as well but i was talking about the entire project mostly.
when you say CA, what do you mean?

Santee

[Titon]

That as well but i was talking about the entire project mostly.
when you say CA, what do you mean?

Our friends over at Cylon.org

www.cylon.org

check it out.

:)

[infinityloop]

thanks for the link!

[dilbertman]

Off to see the Wizard. Bump. The Wizard of OZ that is.

Jim ;)

[section33]

wicked...

[magnetmage]

Wish I could see the pics... :(

[peter noble]

Bump! ;)

[Norsehound]

The bridge needs to be finished.

If the physical model was destroyed with hammers, then the least that could be done is the digital completetion of what could have been.

Kudos to effort!

[Aussie Warrior]

It would be amazing if it was done in a CGI fan episode, the bridge looked so cool

[Titon]

Wow, long time since this thread has been bumped.

I wanted to give a sneak peak as to what i have accomplished so far. The main bridge has been fleshed out and i'm only showing one render for now. Again this is all prelim and the characters you see are, yes, very bald. There fill in's to guage size. Everything else is modeled with a few slight textures here and there. I hope to have the entire thing pretty much accomplished before to long but again with me ya never can tell. There are other sections of the bridge fleshed out including the updated communication room and the entrances to access the sitiuation room model. All images are prelim including the rear view screens. I haven't had a chance to do that right yet. I present the DeSanto bridge concept update. Enjoy!

Of course there is a TON of modeling to do yet but turning out pretty damn good so far.

Ps..You should see this rendered out in high def!

:D

Please do not repost this image.

:)

[jjrakman]

Cool. Does the center part still rotate in the DeSatno concept?

[Titon]

Cool. Does the center part still rotate in the DeSatno concept

The center does not in the update. Eventually once fleshed out you will see why.

:)

[jjrakman]

This is not a ctrique on your art which looks great, but instead a comment on the DeSanto design.

I rather like the central rotating mechanism of the original bridge. I think that movement on the bridge somehow added to the sense of urgency and action especially during a red alert sequence, far more than a static stationary bridge would like Trek's Enterprise. It also gave the bridge a distinct flavor all it's own. But maybe there's a reason they designed it the way they did.

[dilbertman]

Great work T. This makes me hate Moore/Eick more than ever. But I will get over that one day.

Jim :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[peter noble]

>Sniff<

I'm very happy.

Well done Don. Press it home, press it home!

Cheers,

Peter

[Taranis]

Fabulous work Titon ....really would have liked to have seen this on a live set .. it would have been something to see

[Aussie Warrior]

Absolutely amazing stuff, adding the characters makes it superb because it gives it the character used touch instead of a gleaming bridge totally untouched

[Stevew]

Great stuff Don. Can't wait to see it finished
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[jewels]

Cool. Keep up the good work. :D Great to see the progress you've made.

[amberstar]

Titon all I can say is WOW.
When I look at what you have done I'm amazed at how real it looks, I can't wait to see more progress.
You have a lot of talent my friend!

[Titon]

Another update. This is a shot of the communication room. I finished fleshing it out and now i just need to add the components. :)

Sorry about the ugly characters. There just fill in's like i said. Bald, very bald.

Once i get going the floors, steps and such will take on the more metal type look seen in DeSanto's bridge rendering. But i'll add in flairs of my own. I like to change a few things here and there that seem to fit better.

;)

[peter noble]

It's looking good, though bits of it still remind me of the interior of the mothership in V.

I can't believe you had some free time! ;)

[Titon]

I can't believe you had some free time

Why i otta!

Actually this little project of mine is quite enjoyable. It was a bi-atch to get right since the plans are a bit weird. The hi def renders are pretty good although it's all prelim lighting. It takes about an hour to render out a high def 1900x1280 image. It get's harder and harder as i add more to the mesh.

:)

[peter noble]

I can't wait to see it in Red Alert lighting! ;)

[Titon]

I can't wait to see it in Red Alert lighting!

AND watching the new front shield moving into place!

:)

[Stevew]

Gosh Don
At first glance I thought the guy in the shadows was you
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Great stuff
S

[jewels]

Gosh Don
At first glance I thought the guy in the shadows was you
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Great stuff
SThat deserves a thwack, don't you think? **points to remark about the baldy model**

It's nice to see you Steve. Been a while since I bumped into you.

[Titon]

Ya know Steve i miss our little banters.

It's a good thing us old folks stick together and don't let these young pup's take over.

By the way, bald is beautiful.

;)

[Stevew]

Jewels.
I am always here but do a lot of lurking. The last couple mos. have been pretty crappy but things are settling down now

[Stevew]

LOL Don
I am not bald yet but I do spend more time counting my wrinkles
:)

[TwoBrainedCylon]

That's pretty.


Sandy

[Titon]

That's pretty

Are you talking about the stickly bald headed women?

:D

[peter noble]

Are you talking about the stickly bald headed women?

:D

Let's not bring Sandy's Persis Khambata fetish into this. ;)

[Titon]

Let's not bring Sandy's Persis Khambata fetish into this.

EEP!

:)

[martok2112]

The guy in the shadows could be Yul Brynner. :D

[Titon]

Update time.

I pretty much closed in the ceiling of the bridge and began working on the front view screen area. I also fleshed out the lower command console area. Lot's to do yet but it's begining to look pretty cool.


:salute:

[TwoBrainedCylon]

NICE!


Sandy

[Stevew]

Very Kewl Don
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Taranis]

Damn that great .. such a crime it not been realized in film version ..

the details on the hull are great ...

[peter noble]

Cool!

[Titon]

Thanks guys.

To give a little more depth to the model here's an HD render. It looks much better when you see it this way.

http://www.7thmillenia.com/images/render01_09_14_07.jpg

:)

I'm not to keen on the chairs yet and might change that. It's all radiosity rendering with one single light providing illumination. The light panel's are providing the fill. I kind of like the colors as they are but in DeSanto's color bridge rendering it's a bit of green. I've played with a type of day watch and night watch lighting.

I continue on.

:)

[ernie90125]

I like the image, but prefer the traditional grey we saw in TOS.

I'm not sure what the grating its above the doors ? Remindes me of the Klingon hatch that Kirk and co escape from in ST:IV, or the prision section of the Death Star.

I do like the chairs !

I like the new doors, but find myself asking a question I've thought about before. Put a aircraft carrier and a fleet of 220 cruise ships and fishing vessels in the middle of the Atlantic, under attack and fatigued......when would they have gone through the ship re-designing the doors ? Certainly, there would have been some innovation, but I doubt changing the doors would have been a high priority ?

I didn't know about that whole site and forum you've got going there, would love you to bring the Big G back !

[gpdesigner]

Nice detail Titon . . I see that in the not too far off G universe, bald-headed women will run the show. :D

gp

[martok2112]

Me like! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Very well done, Don.

[KJ]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeee! :thumbsup:

Glad to see your designs Titon, cos i've said it years ago you're pretty damn skillful at what you do. DeSanto would be proud, and i hope he can be sent these beautiful bridge designs they are based on his work and it would be incredible if he gave some feedback on what one of the Galactica fans has done here.

Although i have one question. why a smaller viewscreen to look through?

It kinda reduces the Galactica to a Star Trek-ish kinda viewscreen? She needs her rather longer 'concaved' wider angle viewscreen instead, otherwise i love it!

Neat work boss keep it up. :thumbsup:

KJ

[KJ]

Damn that great .. such a crime it not been realized in film version ..

the details on the hull are great ...

True.

However those that went to Galacticon in 2003, reported on DeSanto showing stuff from his portfolio which has a wealth of stuff not seen since? Photos, drawings, designs, layouts, concept pictures etc. With a mere two weeks away from actual shooting in late 2001, i'm certain somebody must've taken and took plenty of colour pictures with a camera of the sets (that were up) and props and whatnot, that haven't been released online yet!

Alas Singer and DeSanto's BG is becoming like "Star Trek Phase 2!" more and more. Although it never went into production, obviously alot was documented by people at the time who were there, before the 'boneheads' in suits in L.A. ordered the sets destroyed cos storage was costing them too much??? (even in Canadian dollars?) And anything relating to Singer & DeSanto's BG behind the scenes, as was it was in the production stages, remains so far to be unseen. Lets hope all that'll change real soon though?

KJ

[Titon]

Although i have one question. why a smaller viewscreen to look through?


Because that was what they had designed. It's kind of hard to judge scale at the moment but once everything is further along you'll see.

:)

[dilbertman]

Great work 'T'.

Hopefully one day we will also get a 'Phase 2' type book. That is after a 10 season run of Galactica of Tom. I would also put Richard's and Glen's work in there to. To bad Galactica could not have followed Star Trek playbook- TOS,TAS,TMP's,TNG... RESPECT.

True.

However those that went to Galacticon in 2003, reported on DeSanto showing stuff from his portfolio which has a wealth of stuff not seen since? Photos, drawings, designs, layouts, concept pictures etc. With a mere two weeks away from actual shooting in late 2001, i'm certain somebody must've taken and took plenty of colour pictures with a camera of the sets (that were up) and props and whatnot, that haven't been released online yet!

Alas Singer and DeSanto's BG is becoming like "Star Trek Phase 2!" more and more. Although it never went into production, obviously alot was documented by people at the time who were there, before the 'boneheads' in suits in L.A. ordered the sets destroyed cos storage was costing them too much??? (even in Canadian dollars?) And anything relating to Singer & DeSanto's BG behind the scenes, as was it was in the production stages, remains so far to be unseen. Lets hope all that'll change real soon though?

KJ
KJ

I was one of the few that saw his portfolio, and yes there was a ton of great stuff in it that needs to be seen by all. And hopefully one day it will. What's on the net is just the tip of the iceberg.

Jim

[KJ]

Say Titon, i was wondering. In the colour and black & white version of Guy Dyas Galactica bridge drawings, he seemed to have minor differences between them. In the B&W one for example, Guy put several video screens above the main control center itself (where Omega and Tigh are stationed).

Although in the B&W version there isn't any space or station behind the 'Star System Chart Map' glass etc.

Black & White DeSanto Bridge!

http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=231&


Colour DeSanto Bridge!

http://www.colonialfleets.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=230&


I was wondering if you'd thought of taking the 'video monitors' bit from the B&W one is all? Might be more interesting to see that kind of upgrade being done to the bridge as well as the varitations in the structure of the bridge itself.

Other than that, i was going to ask if you'd add anything to the DeSanto designs from your own end of things. Guy Dyas perhaps for got to add structural supports, cos its seems unlikely Galactica's enginers would leave the bridge looking so "open" without any kind of heavy duty supports in case of bombardment from Cylon ships and any other laserfire/combat hazzards etc.

And another thing. Why would they remove the railing from the front viewscreen? During any sudden turns by the Galactica while in flight or a slight shift in gravity, and whomever passes by the front is going to fall right by the first class or junior officers manning their control stations or hit the viewscreen itself etc.

Even in science fiction, things oughta make sense logically. I say see if its possible to make it work within the boundries of common sense, alter it a little more so we can all take a look at it saying, 'Damn' its flawless in its development and final design. And nobody can even hint at anything standing out of place etc?

Maybe Guy Dyas forgot to put the railings in so you'll have to compensate for him in a way? But thats if you so choose to though.

Other than those enqueries of mine. I wish you well in this endeavor boss!

All the best! :salute:

Dilbertman, enough exists right now on the net for us to get together and make our own unofficial Battlestar Galactica book cover alot of details about the series, its revival attempts and tons of photos and whatnot. Only God can guess at what DeSanto, Hatch and Larson haven't unearthed as of yet online let alone for anything BSG related in the near future?

Yeah i agree man, the fans as well as every other sci-fi fan out there deserve a; "Battlestar Galactica: Phase 2-ish" a large (600 pages plus!) awe-inspiring 'super-encyclopedia' book to finally knock'em all dead kinda special, that answers everything! And leaves enough room for a possible follow-up! (should there be a theatrical movie!)

KJ

[KJ]

P.S.

And to show how special it could be hire 'Frank Frazetta' again to do the artwork for the BG book hardback cover! Or get Alex Ross? The paperback can be done by another artist or be it another vartiation done by the same artist etc.

You decide, long as its a commisson done by a highly regarded artist in his or her field as of today and the art is so killer it practically says..."BUY ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!"

KJ

[Titon]

Thanks for the responses KJ.

I'm premarily using Guy's renderings of the bridge redesign as you know. I can't tell you why such differences in areas but i will say that i've already changed here and there since some of the things don't make sense. Take for instance the front view screen area. By looking at the drawings they way they made it should be built differently. But in the real world the view screen area would have to mainly remain the same structurly. In the color rendering they have the front view screen as such. In a rendering that i have of the main screen redesign itself it would not have fit the way Guy drew it up. So hence the change to what you see modeled. The shield simply would not have worked the way he had it.

I've changed it up a bit since i used the original galactica bridge blueprints as reference. I'm also attempting to add some of the flare that Guy put into it. I have reference that Tom's intention was to build the bridge set following the old design with his own type of flair added. In the end the bridge will look different but that's not to say the structures aren't reforced elsewhere.

I agree with you that removing the railing from the lower section probably isn't the best idea and i could add that in. Again this is a work in progress and it's a huge undertaking. Things will fill in as i progress along.

Keep watching for updates.

:)

PS.....If there is something you guys would like to see added let me know. I could try and incorporate them in the redesign.

[Titon]

Nice detail Titon . . I see that in the not too far off G universe, bald-headed women will run the show.

Hey gp. Sorry missed your post. Yes bald headed women are going to rule the universe! Actually i have a few low poly character model's as you can see to fill in the areas until i have time to properly make characters. Hair just get's in the way.

Besided Sandy has a fetish for bald headed women.

:D

[Titon]

I like the image, but prefer the traditional grey we saw in TOS.

I'm not sure what the grating its above the doors ? Remindes me of the Klingon hatch that Kirk and co escape from in ST:IV, or the prision section of the Death Star.

I do like the chairs !

I like the new doors, but find myself asking a question I've thought about before. Put a aircraft carrier and a fleet of 220 cruise ships and fishing vessels in the middle of the Atlantic, under attack and fatigued......when would they have gone through the ship re-designing the doors ? Certainly, there would have been some innovation, but I doubt changing the doors would have been a high priority ?

I didn't know about that whole site and forum you've got going there, would love you to bring the Big G back !

I guess the only thing you can say Ernie is we have to accept change. How, why and when those changes happened would be something i cannot answer. I'm just trying to follow Tom's vision of a future Galactica. The grey was nice but doesn't lend itself well to cg. I'm sure the real world builders would love to change things since Galactica's inception and i guess it's what you could call artistic license.

The grating above the doors, if that's what your refering to, are lights.
:)

[Titon]

Kj, as you can see from this render the rear view screen has plenty of room for more consoles. I'll also be adding those in the future.


:)

[peter noble]

Yeah, railings. It needs the railings back.

In reality when the actors have to shake about they need to brace themselves against something for dramatic effect. Plus it looks real cool when stuntmen launch themselves over them.

[Titon]

In reality when the actors have to shake about they need to brace themselves against something for dramatic effect. Plus it looks real cool when stuntmen launch themselves over them.


Then it shall be done.

:)

[Taranis]

Fantastic Image Titon

[peter noble]

Then it shall be done.

:)


Yippee! :)

[KJ]

If there is something you guys would like to see added let me know. I could try and incorporate them in the redesign.

Only things i can think of are..Pictures added to the video monitors as you've done before to add that feeling of things happen within Galactica and her fleet. Like the way the fanbase's 'Colonial Warrior's Journal' did the same with its pictures of the bridge done in CG. Screens showing the traffic of the fleet, Vipers and Shuttles launching/landing, landrams (scrabs) in the landing bay, long range planetary bodies ahead, blueprint layouts of the ship on video consols, video communications being shown on various screens with other ships etc. Basically anything you can think of to flesh it out more, as a busy working bridge being heavily manned by crew personel etc.

After the new DeSanto styled conference room, corridors and passage ways, and the 'G' bridge, whats next Titon? Do you plan on doing; Orin's quarters perhaps, the school class room and maybe the modified landing bay with President Mara's shuttle landing in the bay!

Yes bald headed women are going to rule the universe! Actually i have a few low poly character model's as you can see to fill in the areas until i have time to properly make characters. Hair just get's in the way.

Besided Sandy has a fetish for bald headed women.

When you get around to doing the poly models of the Colonial Warriors properly, Do you have any reference to base them on from whatever DeSanto did with his drawing based on his take on the Galactica Warrior's updated look? Did you also get a chance to see DeSanto's portfolio along with Dilbertman too? I know that there's one picture along with some insignias and badges that have DeSanto's B&W drawings of a Viper Pilot per se. But aren't the bridge crew and staff personel are supposed to be wearing blue uniforms as in the TOS episodes.

It would be nice to have poly models based on DeSanto's updated Warriors look, running the bridge opposed to simply the older ones from the classic series. although you can obviously mix and match and get a combination of warriors and bridge personel in different uniforms etc.

Unless of course you'll make'em up as you go along and add your own favor to things. And perhaps mess around with the colour schemes and such etc.

KJ

P.S. Sandy's fetish for bald headed women eh? Don't suppose he's a big fan of the centauri women of Babylon 5 as well huh.

:blink:

[Titon]

Kj, there will be images added to the console screens and much of what you stated will be a part of it. I got to spend time with Tom at Galacticon and some of the stuff he had envisioned i'm going to try and do.

As far as where this all will go who know's but a nice video walkthrough would be fun.

:)

[ernie90125]

As far as where this all will go who know's but a nice video walkthrough would be fun. I have a few suggestions, and certainly the word "video" applies !!!!

You'd never guess which site I'd like to show them on too !!! ;-)

[Titon]

I have a few suggestions, and certainly the word "video" applies !!!!

You'd never guess which site I'd like to show them on too !!! ;-)

I'll try Ernie. The DeSanto bridge here holds something pretty close to my heart. I want it to be finished so i can expand on something that hasn't been done before. One step at a time.

:)

[dilbertman]

Adding to KJ questions. In the color image it looks like the star chart is free standing. But in the B/W image it looks like its part of the the rear wall. Which way do you plan on doing it? My two cents is free standing. Now get this ship finished!

Jim :thumbsup:

[KJ]

Agreed!

But please avoid the Star Trek look of the bridge looking all clean and brand new. Upgraded or not, the ship still is over 500 yahrens old and a upgrade job should look the part at least. Thus try to work in a kinda of 'patch-work' feel to things, its all the latest developmets that Dr Wilker and Commander Orin's crew came up with over some period of time. But its more or less, a do-over job rather than a "bridge" fresh off some nearby construction yards etc.

Make it look all grey-ish as in the colourised painting. But with that "custom built" kinda feel to it all!

Avoid the Star Trek-DS9 Deviant, Enterprise NX-1 or Voyager bridge feel with any clean 'cgi' wireframe models and hard 'angular' shapes and whatnot. Even carpet some areas as with the old TOS bridge. combine the best of both versions i guess is what were saying, if it helps any for you that is Titon!

Lets remember the fleet's has been on the run, and even a short stop for 20 years on a giant asteroid, isn't gong to give'em enough resources to spit out a brand spanking new bridge, completely different from its original shape when they had older ships in the fleet that needed attention carrying some of their people's etc.

Upgraded DeSanto styled bridge, but nothing Trek-ish looking is all!

If anything, add in a few hulking 'ugly tubes', old conduits, older style computers in certain places; with working nobs and switches, large hand turning leavers, flashing lights, panels in the sides of the hull that are always opened out in someplaces with clearly seen electronic part operating aways?, large cables all tied up in the upper parts of the bridge and whatnot, visable tubing for air and ventilation etc. This would definately show the cannibalistic skills of the colonial's engineering crews and military staff working to do the impossible, to upgrade an old warship, the last of its kind, into a more futuristic and sophistocated kinda command centre! But from materials and parts from all over the fleet.


;)

Lets remember, that in Singer & DeSanto's version of Battlestar Galactica. The Israelites stayed at mount Sinai and built Las Vegas (nice DeSanto analogy there!) instead, rather than continue the journey Adama set out? With that in mind, they were building casinos and amusment parks, with their resources divided between their ships and their sinful money making schemes, i doubt a jaw-dropping "Trek" styled futuristic bridge is going to materialise from a group that could barely obtain food and fuel during the exodus from their shattered worlds. But a passable 'suspension of disbelief' upgrade version might be if enough parts were kept from the casinos and minor cities they built. And Orin outsmarted the Council of 12 time and time again to give his beloved pet-project, enough resources to get the job done?!

KJ

[Titon]

I'll do the best i can.

The rear star chart is a stand alone unit. Not a part of the rear wall.

:)

[dilbertman]

I'll do the best i can.

The rear star chart is a stand alone unit. Not a part of the rear wall.

:)
:thumbsup:

Jim :salute:

[peter noble]

More? ;)

[Titon]

More?

Cookies??

Sorry about the lack of updates on this one. I've recently discovered working with lightwave that my computer is underpowered. Sounds kind of geeky doesn't it? I'm in the process of building a machine that won't have any problems while playing in lightwave. As soon as i have finished assembling all the components i'll be back to this project of mine.

:)

[Stevew]

Don
I have the same problem. I am putting specs for my next computer. I am leaning twoard the QX6600 quad core and the nvidia 8800, what about you?

[Titon]

Hey Steve.

Presently building a bare bones Dell Precision 690. It's a beast. The Chassis alone weighs 61 pounds. The power supply is a 1000 watt and i'm going with quad core xeons. All 64 bit technology. There are memory risers in the machine. It can hold *and use* 64 gigs of memory. I'm trying first Xp 64 but eventually when things iron out move to vista 64. With the 64 bit technology within the processors and software upgrades i can blast the memory bottle kneck that exits with 32 bit technology.

Of course i'm building it myself but in the end i should have roughly 1500 into a machine that would otherwise cost nearly 5k. I should be able to add both the hi rez Galactica and Basestar into a single scene, add lights and everything else without a slowdown or lockup.

:)

[Stevew]

Sounds like a monster. It is similar to what I am thinking about. XP64 is great. I have been useing it for about 8 mos. Solidworks has a 64 bit version that I use. I get about a 20% boost but that will improve as they refine it. I have heard a few good things about Vista 64 but will wait at least a year. I am disapointed in TS, my revision of "G" is 1.8M polys and it will not render so I have yet to post any piks :( :(
I have been in a funk for a couple mos. now bit have started a complete redue of my Atlantis now that I have some good piks. So far I am very pleased
S

[Stevew]

Not sure I would go with a XEON not as much bang for the buck IMHO
A couple sites you can use to chk comps
http://www.anandtech.com/
http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/
http://www.tomshardware.com/

[KJ]

Hey, hows the bridge coming along Titon! Everything good so far? Can't wait to see how you've made some jawdropping images as usual.

Don't suppose you'll animate anything of yours relating to Tom DeSanto's conceptual designs "Battlestar Millenia" style in several short clips! These wonderful images of yours are crying out for a little more visualisation! Certainly would be incredible if fans with artistic skills like yours made an extended 'BSG: Foundation trailer' and gave more insight into Singer & DeSanto's concepts for the 2001 Galactica attempt with animated sequences of his other designs that weren't shown or weren't given enough time to show off anything more 'solid' in the 'Foundation Trailer' which really acted more as a teaser than a extended trailer of the 2001 Galactica revival effort?!

So, can we expect any updates pretty soon Titon?

KJ

[Titon]

Thanks for looking in again KJ.

I'm building a new lightwave workstation at the moment. Unfortunatly once i finished assembling it i discovered one of the two cpu sockets is dead. I've had to delay anything until i get the new motherboard. Once that's finished i'll be back to work.

:)

[ernie90125]

Don't suppose you'll animate anything of yours relating to Tom DeSanto's conceptual designs "Battlestar Millenia" style in several short clips! These wonderful images of yours are crying out for a little more visualisation!

I didn't put him up to it honest Don ! Then again, I would prefer an all new animation rather than extending a piece from years ago !

Keep up the good work Don (and KJ!)

:)

[KJ]

Well by extension, i meant a broader showing of Titon's extrapolation on what the foundation trailer originally gave us is all.

The painted pictures and stills are dying for a little more life. Everything Singer and DeSanto did for their version should be expanded on and explored considering we all love anything mostly continuation based, it makes logical sense for fans here to envision such things from our perspective doesn't it?


I didn't put him up to it honest Don !

What??? you mean you're not sending me that 'postal order check' of money for saying all that...er i mean all those things i meant to Don? And my pet cat that you've got tied up somewhere's over a fireplace, he's alright isn't he.

And hey, that gun of yours thats in my back, it is loaded as you said right....? :blink:

:D ;)

Ah 'blackmail', everyone's best kept secret weapon. :LOL:

Nah seriously he didn't Titon KJ's always been pretty genuine who appreaciates good artwork in all its forms, i just thought 'd ask and wonder if the creative juices of CF's best artists might go into making stunning CGI clips of DeSanto's BG conceptual ideas to go along with the stills you've created, in that direction too is all.

DeSanto wanted to give the original Galactica model some Battleship Yamato (Starblazers) type huge guns. Since DeSanto didn't show us his version of the TOS last surviving Battlestar warship in a updated TV/Movie incarnation as such. I was only wondering up until now, if that also could be another creative liberty taken and something you might attempt to do as well besides work based on the conceptualised revival drawings that were released.

Wishing all the best anyways! :thumbsup:

KJ

P.S. Keep up the good work Don (and KJ!)


Right back at ya! :thumbsup:


I should be subtitled CF's and Galactica fandom's creative 'Muse' indeed :salute: :D

[dilbertman]

Hey T

How are things coming on the new workstation? Need some updates before you get real work again.

Jim

[Titon]

Work station is up and running. I HUGE improvement overall. Computers sure have come a long way.

I'll be working soon.

:)

[dilbertman]

Glad to hear that.

Jim :salute:

[ernie90125]

Great !

Looking forwards to updates.......

[KJ]

Same here!

KJ

[Titon]

Hey guy's. Sorry for no updates on this. I'm getting a feel for my new system and realize how easy it is to play with my Galactica model. I've started work on her again.

I know one thing at a time.

:)

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I think its time for Don to isolate himself in the dark and play with his toy ....

Sandy

[Titon]

I think its time for Don to isolate himself in the dark and play with his toy

How true that is!

;)

[ernie90125]

I'm getting a feel for my new system and realize how easy it is to play with my Galactica model. I've started work on her again.
That's good news in itself. It seems the lack of a good Big G model has help back many ideas. For example, David Kerin mentioned disappointment with Galactica models in a recent thread on his special editions.

The idea of the creation of a Big G model which could knock everyone out, and be the backbone of a stunning animation is a very exciting prospect.

[KJ]

Hey guy's. Sorry for no updates on this. I'm getting a feel for my new system and realize how easy it is to play with my Galactica model. I've started work on her again.

I know one thing at a time.

Play around with her on computer as long as you want to boss. Seeing as your doing a DeSanto bridge, maybe your playing around will provide those 'Starblazer' type guns Tom DeSanto wanted on his Battlestar Galactica. After doing the corridors, passage ways, Galactica ready room and Battlestar bridge. All you'd need now is the 'Warrior Barracks, shuttle rams, Launch/Landing bays, Lifestation, rejuvenation centre, and a model of the ship from the outside.

;)

Blow us all away Titon, in time. Your audience is always here waiting to admire the goodies!

Seriously though, a talented person like yourself and other artists on here, have always had my respect! I look forward to seeing your future works.

:thumbsup:

KJ

[RonGC]

Thank you for opening my eyes to the concept designs of DeSanto. I was totally unaware of his work previous to reading this thread.

Good modeling going on with this bridge.

Ron

[Gold Cylon]

Just found this over 2 year old thread, but is seems to be a bit active still, except the past few months. Over great work here, and a fun read the past 30 minutes. Hope the new system came together OK by now, and hope all is good in the LW department. Can't wait to see how this turns out. By the way when I first saw the chairs I questioned if those were right or not, but glad to see I wasn't the only peanut gallery critic of the chairs. I like the design, but the L shape fit wouldn't last 5 minutes let alone a 1 hour TV program, or better yet a BIG screen event. Congrats on the work so far, and I'll keep my eyes open for more updates. Thanks for your efforts, and the great work. :thumbsup: :D :cool: :salute:

[peter noble]

Frack, I sneezed. ;)

[StarshipTrooper]

May the Lords of Kobol bless you!

:rotf:

[Titon]

At least wipe the monitor.

;)

[Gemini1999]

Frack, I sneezed. ;)

Hands Peter a tissue....